Superior Iron Man vs. WWH

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That was a diff Hulk. This is WWH.

not to mention, this is a diff Tony.

Hulk is Hulk and WWH is more powerful. If anyone wants to see the fight that I am talking about, here it is...

Originally posted by carver9
Hands that can Juggles SUNS. Hulk is literally toying with an amped Ironman. Ripping through his tech and armor with ease. Hulk is operating at insane levels these days. This version or Hulk needs to stay. An absolute beast.

Lol, Ironman thought he was weaker because he was smart. This version of Hulk is as powerful, if not, more powerful than his dumb, brute, always angry self. Loving it.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is Hulk and WWH is more powerful. If anyone wants to see the fight that I am talking about, here it is...

So a more powerful Hulk was unable to replicate what Superior Tony did....

Proof that the suit he used was superior to the Hulkbuster?

Otherwise, we have a direct comparison. Hulkbuster performances.

Originally posted by long pig
HULK **** starts Tony's head.

Lol...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So a more powerful Hulk was unable to replicate what Superior Tony did....

Proof that the suit he used was superior to the Hulkbuster?

Otherwise, we have a direct comparison. Hulkbuster performances.

I really do not have to provide proof on anything. We need proof that Ironman suits are just as formidable when he isn't in it vs when he is in it.

Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
I really do not have to provide proof on anything. We need proof that Ironman suits are just as formidable when he isn't in it vs when he is in it.

Scans.

'I don't have proof, so will instead ask you for proof'.

I can see why you are scared to face me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
'I don't have proof, so will instead ask you for proof'.

I can see why you are scared to face me.

What kind of proof would you like?

Huh? I'm not scared to face you.

Originally posted by carver9
We need proof that Ironman suits are just as formidable when he isn't in it vs when he is in it.

It's common sense. The only thing that goes away is writer's armor. And speaking of writer's armor, armorless Hulk would get f*cked up bad by full capacity Tony in a forum scenario.

Empty suit wrecked Omega Red.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's common sense. The only thing that goes away is writer's armor. And speaking of writer's armor, armorless Hulk would get f*cked up bad by full capacity Tony in a forum scenario.

Empty suit wrecked Omega Red.

Empty suit got its head punched off by an Abomination rip off that was at half power. Do you think the same would've happened if Tony was in the suit? Think about it.

Originally posted by carver9
Empty suit got its head punched off by an Abomination rip off that was at half power. Do you think the same would've happened if Tony was in the suit? Think about it.

Again, writer's armor thing.

Hulk w/o writer's armor can't even touch forum Tony. Featureless environment, nothing to throw at him. Full capacity, Tony evades his every leap and spams dozens of ranged attacks at him.

Originally posted by carver9
What kind of proof would you like?

Huh? I'm not scared to face you.

That Iron Man suits are less durable, without any PIS Worf effects going on.

IOW, proof that Tony's presence actually strengthens them. Scans of his mind or will or human muscles holding the suit together, or perhaps his lifeforce, or whatever.

Not talking about the ninja effect, which we all agree is PIS.

Just so we're clear....

Not scans of Ares/Sentry/whatever breaking the empty suits. Posting such scans will be an admission of your failure.

Actual on-panel explanations that it is the lack of Tony which makes them less durable.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Again, writer's armor thing.

Hulk w/o writer's armor can't even touch forum Tony. Featureless environment, nothing to throw at him. Full capacity, Tony evades his every leap and spams dozens of ranged attacks at him.

Hulk has blitzed Ironman before and his energy attacks along with his strength is nothing to the Hulk. Ironman recently threw a city at Hulk at it did nothing. Hell, the WWH and Tony fight, their shockwaves was destroying the city and he still couldn't drop Hulk. He isn't doing anything here and Hulk WILL hit Tony, a lot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That Iron Man suits are less durable, without any PIS Worf effects going on.

IOW, proof that Tony's presence actually strengthens them. [b]Scans of his mind or will or human muscles holding the suit together, or perhaps his lifeforce, or whatever.

Not talking about the ninja effect, which we all agree is PIS. [/B]

PIS have nothing to do with this. It's on panel that his suits are not as formidable when he is in it vs when he isn't. Ares were taking out his suits with minor trouble whereas when Tony is in them,he can exchange blows with upper tier people like Thor, Surfer, Taurus, and Hulk.

Show me one scene of Ironman in his standard gear getting his arm or head ripped off while fighting someone and I will concede.

Ninja effect? How about on panel proof? Why ask me to show you proof when you're going to ignore it as a ninja effect ruling?

Originally posted by carver9
PIS have nothing to do with this. It's on panel that his suits are not as formidable when he is in it vs when he isn't. Ares were taking out his suits with minor trouble whereas when Tony is in them,he can exchange blows with upper tier people like Thor, Surfer, Taurus, and Hulk.

Show me one scene of Ironman in his standard gear getting his arm or head ripped off while fighting someone and I will concede.

Ninja effect? How about on panel proof? Why ask me to show you proof when you're going to ignore it as a ninja effect ruling?

So again, when I ask for proof, you handwave it away with, 'no, show ME proof'.

Post the scans explaining how the lack of Tony magically makes them less durable. Please.

You want ONE scene? Sure.
https://41.media.tumblr.com/ab67fb4d931d4a6d17e709d7783e1874/tumblr_nnku9ukjMR1skzooso1_500.jpg

Wait, here's Spidey doing the same:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11123/111235780/4768799-4150060-0227068366-asm_5.jpg

Concession accepted.

Get a room already guys.

Here's another:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/goetz420/tnai-01-019.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So again, when I ask for proof, you handwave it away with, 'no, show ME proof'.

Post the scans explaining how the lack of Tony magically makes them less durable. Please.

You want ONE scene? Sure.
https://41.media.tumblr.com/ab67fb4d931d4a6d17e709d7783e1874/tumblr_nnku9ukjMR1skzooso1_500.jpg

Wait, here's Spidey doing the same:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11123/111235780/4768799-4150060-0227068366-asm_5.jpg

Concession accepted.

The entire head was shown being taken off in those scans? Anyways, I've named power houses Ironman has withstood hits from without his armor crumbling. When the armor doesn't have him in it, it's treated like tissue paper. So, that showing Stiltman posted means nothing to me.

WWH stomps with ease.

Originally posted by carver9
The entire head was shown being taken off in those scans? Anyways, I've named power houses Ironman has withstood hits from without his armor crumbling. When the armor doesn't have him in it, it's treated like tissue paper. So, that showing Stiltman posted means nothing to me.

WWH stomps with ease.

Can you not see Spidey ripping the entire helmet off?

Like tissue?

Here:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11123/111235780/4768799-4150060-0227068366-asm_5.jpg

Namor did the same.

SO unless you're trying to say that Tony's neck is somehow > his armour...

Guess it's a Spidey thing...

Hey, Bucky can do it too!

So yeah, Iron Man's armour doesn't magically become more durable when he's in there. It is merely a plot device, whereby Tony is protected by the writer to not be ripped apart.