Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes; I think QS being far, far, far faster is an advantage.
And yet nowhere in nature does speed win a battle when facing a foe stronger and more ferocious. It is only in your imagination where somehow the laws that have evolved in nature over millions of years to give predators strength and prey speed have been inverted.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Being faster in movies and other fiction wins battles all the time.
Sure, in fiction. But in this argument we are only using fictive characters to do battle. The rules of battle still apply in this forum, which means your favourite character does not win simply because you say so - you have to prove it. So far, nothing has been proven.
To me, the argument in favour of Quickie winning is like saying Bolt running at top speed will win a battle against a gorilla walking along. Sure, Bolt is moving ten times faster than the gorilla. And yet I am pretty sure Bolt would much rather run the other way than towards the gorilla.
QS is so much faster than Yulow (NOT just in running speed but at how he percieves the passing of time) that Yulow would almost be moving in slow motion to him. Sure Yulow is much stronger physically, but as shown by the movie, a gentle touch from QS's finger is enough to one hit KO a human being. Yulow will never be able to touch him and he is strong enough to inflict damage.
Stomp in QS's favor.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Sure, in fiction. But in this argument we are only using fictive characters to do battle. The rules of battle still apply in this forum, which means your favourite character does not win simply because you say so - you have to prove it. So far, nothing has been proven.To me, the argument in favour of Quickie winning is like saying Bolt running at top speed will win a battle against a gorilla walking along. Sure, Bolt is moving ten times faster than the gorilla. And yet I am pretty sure Bolt would much rather run the other way than towards the gorilla.
And per movie feats QS is so much faster than Yulaw that he is never going to get hit and QS can send people flying with a simple touch which means that Yulaw is going to speed the majority of the fight flying through the air and crashing in solid objects.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Running at top speed means the cheetah is ten times faster than a leopard walking along. And if it should be suicidal enough to attack a leopard the same thing will happen to it that will happen to Quickie - it will turn into fast food. And Yulaw will still rule the multiverse.
Except QS speed is so much faster he time stops Yulaw.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
That you will have to prove, since Yulaw showed he could easily dodge bullets, which is evidence that Quickie cannot, in fact, time stop him.
So QS abled to move bullets with his hand, is not able to dodge bullets? 😂
Fair warning, Don't debate with me, you will be destroyed.👆
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Here is Yu Law after getting sent to Hades Penal Colony. Notice when he fights, he's having to react to these people attacking him in real time. And they're all moving at normal speed. Quicksilver viewing them would have had everyone frozen in place. They'd all just be on the ground a few seconds later, unconscious.
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This tribute is more definitive evidence.
Starting at 56 seconds, notice when he tosses the guy across the room, he's moving at normal speed. Faster than them, but not so fast that5 people can't react to and perceive him.
1:07, he fights the response officer and hits him into the air, knocking him into slow down mode. But he's still moving quite fast compared to the security guards QS froze in place.
At 1:14, he has to immediately pick the guy up he just beat down to block those bullets. They weren't moving at a snail's pace like they were for Pietro.
At 1:25, he walks through the guards, but every time he knocks them into the air and they slow down, they're moving a lot faster than the guys QS hit, who were basically frozen until Quicksilver turned his perception of time back to normal.
1:38(this is simple running speed). Yu Law is outpacing cars going full speed. Quicksilver on the other hand ran with Magneto so fast that the shockwave of him running knocked a hallway of men into the air. And he was moving so fast, a super genius like Hank thought he was teleporting.
At 2:00, he had to dodge a bullet. He watched it go past, but he had to put in a lot of effort to dodge it. Pietro on the other hand would have had about 2 minutes before that bullet moved a few inches.
There's plenty of evidence in those 2 vids that displays QS is several tiers of speed above Yu Law, and with that speed he can grievously hurt him. Considering just vibrating his hands shattered reinforced glass, and him running was shattering concrete underneath his feet. Even tapping people with his finger was doing similar damage to Yu Law smacking people with motorcycles and hitting them as hard as he could.