Quicksilver duo vs The One duo

Started by Nibedicus4 pages
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Running at top speed means the cheetah is ten times faster than a leopard walking along. And if it should be suicidal enough to attack a leopard the same thing will happen to it that will happen to Quickie - it will turn into fast food. And Yulaw will still rule the multiverse.

It is not a matter of running speed, it is a matter of how they perceive time and react to it.

While Yulow did see bullets move slow enough to deflect it with his gun, QS was fast enough to have the bullets literally freeze in mid air and allowed him to put on his headphones (strange that it somehow played at the speed he can listen to, but it's movies, what can you do?) run around the room, taste soup, knock out 5 guys and individually move the bullets with his finger all within that space of time.

This shows a VAST difference in terms of perception and reaction speed. In the time it would take for Yulaw to raise his arm to defend against one punch from QS, QS would have weaved around it and hit him a dozen times at the back of his head.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It is not a matter of running speed, it is a matter of how they perceive time and react to it.

While Yulow did see bullets move slow enough to deflect it with his gun, QS was fast enough to have the bullets literally freeze in mid air and allowed him to put on his headphones (strange that it somehow played at the speed he can listen to, but it's movies, what can you do?) run around the room, taste soup, knock out 5 guys and individually move the bullets with his finger all within that space of time.

This shows a VAST difference in terms of perception and reaction speed. In the time it would take for Yulaw to raise his arm to defend against one punch from QS, QS would have weaved around it and hit him a dozen times at the back of his head.


That's why this is interesting. QS may be faster and pack a wallop, but Yulaw is quite stronger and more durable as well as fast enough to react to QS atleast a few times, not mention leagues above QS in skill

Originally posted by KingD19
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Here is Yu Law after getting sent to Hades Penal Colony. Notice when he fights, he's having to react to these people attacking him in real time. And they're all moving at normal speed. Quicksilver viewing them would have had everyone frozen in place. They'd all just be on the ground a few seconds later, unconscious.


You do realize he would be weakened after the teleport and the fight he had with gabe right?
Originally posted by KingD19

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This tribute is more definitive evidence.

Starting at 56 seconds, notice when he tosses the guy across the room, he's moving at normal speed. Faster than them, but not so fast that5 people can't react to and perceive him.

1:07, he fights the response officer and hits him into the air, knocking him into slow down mode. But he's still moving quite fast compared to the security guards QS froze in place.
At 1:14, he has to immediately pick the guy up he just beat down to block those bullets. They weren't moving at a snail's pace like they were for Pietro.
At 1:25, he walks through the guards, but every time he knocks them into the air and they slow down, they're moving a lot faster than the guys QS hit, who were basically frozen until Quicksilver turned his perception of time back to normal.
1:38(this is simple running speed). Yu Law is outpacing cars going full speed. Quicksilver on the other hand ran with Magneto so fast that the shockwave of him running knocked a hallway of men into the air. And he was moving so fast, a super genius like Hank thought he was teleporting.
At 2:00, he had to dodge a bullet. He watched it go past, but he had to put in a lot of effort to dodge it. Pietro on the other hand would have had about 2 minutes before that bullet moved a few inches.
There's plenty of evidence in those 2 vids that displays QS is several tiers of speed above Yu Law, and with that speed he can grievously hurt him. Considering just vibrating his hands shattered reinforced glass, and him running was shattering concrete underneath his feet. Even tapping people with his finger was doing similar damage to Yu Law smacking people with motorcycles and hitting them as hard as he could.


Yulaw has been ran over by a car, smacked with a fire extinguisher, etc. He isn't going down easily

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
That's why this is interesting. QS may be faster and pack a wallop, but Yulaw is quite stronger and more durable as well as fast enough to react to QS atleast a few times, not mention leagues above QS in skill

Stronger is irrelevant here. It is obvious Yulaw would be able to KO QS if he manages to hit him. But he never will.

I also disagree that he will be fast enough to react to QS. He was barely able to react to that gun, just managing to bring his gun up just at the right time to block the bullet. QS literally moved so fast bullets froze in time. This is orders of magnitude faster. Yulaw will never be able to react to QS in any meaningful way.

Skill is irrelevant. QS is too fast for it to matter.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
That's why this is interesting. QS may be faster and pack a wallop, but Yulaw is quite stronger and more durable as well as fast enough to react to QS atleast a few times, not mention leagues above QS in skill

Only Yulaw isn't fast enough to react to QS, as their feats clearly show.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The major problem with your argument is that QS has much more than a "insignificant" advantage in speed. going by feats he actually has a very large advantage.

YouTube video

If Quicksilver is faster than the speed of sound, how is he able to listen to music?

edit: I am stronger than a bullet. I am larger than a bullet. I am smarter than a bullet. I am a better fighter than a bullet.

The bullet is so fast that it would still kill me in a direct confrontation, despite the fact that I am its superior in all other regards.

Its obvious he has some sort of persona aura of protection in speed mode. How else does his clothes stay on or his skin not peel off or his hair not get ripped out.

Let's look at it another way. Superman is vastly stronger than the Flash, yet if Flash hit Supes with multiple IMP's in the first few picoseconds, then Supes is either KO'd or he's get temporarily BFR'd.

The same would apply to QS hitting Yulaw, just in smaller scale.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If Quicksilver is faster than the speed of sound, how is he able to listen to music?

edit: I am stronger than a bullet. I am larger than a bullet. I am smarter than a bullet. I am a better fighter than a bullet.

The bullet is so fast that it would still kill me in a direct confrontation, despite the fact that I am its superior in all other regards.

Movie physics, the scene clearly shows that QS is far faster than Yulaw

The leopard / cheetah analogy that persists in this thread made me log in just to say how hilarious it is.

DoFP QS is many times over the speed of the Law-guys, ridiculous levels of it. It's like some of you people didn't even DoFP or The One, not even a little bit.

We're talking a difference of time 'moving very slow' Vs 'time practically standing still' from the respective perspectives of Law and QS.

Originally posted by Placidity
The leopard / cheetah analogy that persists in this thread made me log in just to say how hilarious it is.

Yeah. It's a bad analogy. QS is faster by a large margin and CAN hurt Yulaw and Law. The evidence is there.

Why is this even a debate? DoFP QS could scoop both Laws' eyeballs out before they are able to react if he wanted to, or any number of things to get him the win on his own.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Why is this even a debate?

Because certain people don't understand levels, they are basically arguing that Cap and Superman both have superstrength, thus Cap would win a fight because he is more skilled.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Let's look at it another way. Superman is vastly stronger than the Flash, yet if Flash hit Supes with multiple IMP's in the first few picoseconds, then Supes is either KO'd or he's get temporarily BFR'd.

The same would apply to QS hitting Yulaw, just in smaller scale.

At least Superman is insanely durable, Yulaw is...not.

LOL at everyone missing the point. What happens once one of the final two Laws die should be the real topic of discussion...

The remaining law will get a HUGE SPEED AND STRENGTH boost. When one is left...I think he takes this.

Why would QS kill one of them?

Originally posted by wallman77
LOL at everyone missing the point. What happens once one of the final two Laws die should be the real topic of discussion...

The remaining law will get a HUGE SPEED AND STRENGTH boost. When one is left...I think he takes this.

We don't know how instantaneous that change is. Considering the speed of the QS's, they'd probably kill both Yulaws before one of them could become the one.

Originally posted by FrothByte
We don't know how instantaneous that change is. Considering the speed of the QS's, they'd probably kill both Yulaws before one of them could become the one.

Check out this very canon quote from the director's cut of "The One"

Once the last version of a person is killed, the final remaining version is instantly encased in an impenetrable cocoon for about 3 seconds. When they emerge only 3 seconds later, "The One" is now the most powerful being in all of movie-dom capable of reshaping reality to his or her whim. No one can stop The One.

Source - Juggerman

Where does it say in the OP that this battle is to the death? The QS team, considering they apparently have all each others feats, strengths etc., according to the OP, is more than strong and fast enough to KO the Laws without killing them, and without that much trouble.