Iran speaks out

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Iran speaks out

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So now the LEADER of Iran has said Israel will more or less be wiped off the map in 25 years(don't know how else to interpret 'Israel won't exist'😉 and they have said there will be no new negotiations with the USA.

Why are we bothering to still make a deal with these people? But hey lets give them billions of dollars, I'm sure they will not put a single dime of that towards their "destroy Israel" goals.

Couple things:

- "Supreme Leader" is a title. Iran has a President. He's very influential though and does dictate policies. But in the end he could say "nay, they're Satan" while the President makes the deal and it's all good to save face.

- That could refer to Israel dissolving. He's said in the past he wants the Israel government gone and an Islamic one set in place. Not "we will nuke them to death!"

edit: But yeah, his mouthing off isn't good in terms of the deal.

His being very influential is the problem. If Iran was serious about this deal they'd get rid of this guy. Why is he allowed to still spout BS?

They either need to get rid of him or show us somehow that they are vastly distancing themselves from this prick.

This is why the majority oppose the Iran deal. It's hard to do business with a country who has a substantial population of nut jobs, led by the ayatollah. The question becomes if (or I think when) the aforementioned group either stages a coup or becomes the de facto power in the region legally, what happens then?

Actually, it does seem like the Ayatollah does have final say in all executive decisions.

So not sure how this deal's going through if he's so against it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, it does seem like the Ayatollah does have final say in all executive decisions.

So not sure how this deal's going through if he's so against it.

How is the Ayatollah against it? He is getting a 140 Billion SCOTT FREE! He can do anything he wants with it and nobody can say SHIT about it!

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, it does seem like the Ayatollah does have final say in all executive decisions.

If this is true then our president is insane if he continues to want to go through with this.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]How is the Ayatollah against it? He is getting a 140 Billion SCOTT FREE! He can do anything he wants with it and nobody can say SHIT about it! [/B]

If this was true you think he'd keep his mouth shut until the deal went through.

"TEHRAN — Iran’s supreme leader predicts that Israel will not exist in 25 years, and rules out any new negotiations with the “Satan,” the United States."

Does specifically say "new", so could be regarding to anything adding or amending to the deal.

Originally posted by Surtur

If this was true you think he'd keep his mouth shut until the deal went through.


Why should he? Who can stop it?

Rob, this has been the main reason for opposition fro majority of people, yet you supporters shrugged this off repeatedly.

The opposition was that Iran was going to build nukes and go durrka durrka Jihad on Israel because they want to die in some fiery glory.

Now while this is odd, it does seem like the Ayatollah is saying "no more negotiations" in regards to the deal, after it's been done. Which on the surface seems like dick-waving to save face, since the Ayatollah (present and past) is all about preaching how America is "evil" and here he went and sanctioned a deal with said "evil".

Rob, would you give a known arsonist that hates his neighbor a pack of matches, and a full barrel of gasoline?

Obviously not.

But that's a silly analogy. It assumes that Iran's an "arsonist".

Are you maybe confusing Iran was the varies Arab states that have actually waged war on Israel?

More like they finance several terrorist groups like Hamas to do it so they can keep the appearance of keeping their hands clean.

Originally posted by Stoic
Rob, would you give a known arsonist that hates his neighbor a pack of matches, and a full barrel of gasoline?
If he were America he would. Afterall, we give plenty of "gasoline" to Saudi Arabia, which is one of the biggest "arsonists" in the Middle East, and who hates Israel and the United States quite openly.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]More like they finance several terrorist groups like Hamas to do it so they can keep the appearance of keeping their hands clean. [/B]

The question would be, would you give the worlds leading state sponser of terrorist $100 billion dollars.

Look at all of what Bin Laden did from some caves in Afghanistan and a compound with no communications in Pakistan.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The question would be, would you give the worlds leading state sponser of terrorist $100 billion dollars.

Look at all of what Bin Laden did from some caves in Afghanistan and a compound with no communications in Pakistan.

I personally wouldn't no. But then I am not a self-serving politician.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
If he were America he would. Afterall, we give plenty of "gasoline" to Saudi Arabia, which is one of the biggest "arsonists" in the Middle East, and who hates Israel and the United States quite openly.

Actually, the ruling elite does not, hence the "business" we do with them.