Sidious vs Yoda
I know I know not another one of these but it's a puzzling question. When they fought the playing field was fairly uneven for both character. So who woudl win if on neutral ground.
Round 1 sabers
Round 2. Force
Round 3 all out
Plenty of objects to throw around, on a flat grassy piece of land.
Who wins if their even is a winner?
This is them in their ROTS incarnations.
The original script and the junior novel depict Yoda as disarming Sidious, and even if you count that as "one of the five out of ten rounds where Yoda wins", that doesn't confirm Sidious' superiority, which has never been shown or even implied anywhere.
Sidious's victories came from the Force (and in some sources, weight/positioning also mattered), not sabers. He's equal to Yoda, but not his better in that regard.
I'll concede the point when somebody can show me a source which suggests Sidious is more skilled. And Yoda doesn't have to be more skilled for Sidious to be unable to take a majority. Draws do exist, you know?
Originally posted by SunRazer
Draws do exist, you know?
Except no sources confirm there was a draw, and the film very clearly depicts him losing 👆
"Outmatched, Yoda retreats and waits to train a new champion to lead the fight against evil.","Though Yoda is a tough combatant, the Emperor uses his Sith powers to release lightning bolts and hurl floating platforms at his foe. Ultimately the battle proves too much for Yoda, who barely escapes and is whisked away to safety by Senator Bail Organa."
"Yoda tries to stop Palpatine, the new Emperor, from taking control. He loses and barely escapes with his life."
Ultimate Star Wars, pages 52-53
-Credit to ILS
Also the ROTS novelization states he didn't have it, etc.
Although Yoda held his own for much of the duel, in the end the Sith bested him. He realized that continuing to directly confront Palpatine would mean failure. Defeated, Yoda slunk away into the shadow's of the Senate chamber's cavernous depths, leaping into a waiting getaway speeder piloted by Bail Organa.Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
The text states Yoda was outmatched, nowhere is it mentioned they're equals
Either this paragraph was invisible or you intentionally ignored it:
Sidious's victories came from the Force (and in some sources, weight/positioning also mattered), not sabers. He's equal to Yoda, but not his better in that regard.
I KNOW that Sidious won. I'm saying nothing ever showed he was Yoda's better in sabers. Force, I could live with - I could even agree with. But sabers? Show me what source suggests Sidious would take the majority in sabers only.
And if you want me to, I can draw on multiple sources that say Yoda is Palpatine's equal.
The only reason I saw for Yoda's loss in the film is that he fell further after the final blast.
I don't see how that was Sidious's superiority more than a result of unequal weight/positioning as SunRazer put it.
No quote about Yoda losing or being ultimately outmatched contradicts that.
And nothing contradicts the script where Yoda disarms Sidious in the Saber match up either.
Originally posted by SunRazer
I KNOW that Sidious won. I'm saying nothing ever showed he was Yoda's better in sabers. Force, I could live with - I could even agree with. But sabers? Show me what source suggests Sidious would take the majority in sabers only.And if you want me to, I can draw on multiple sources that say Yoda is Palpatine's equal.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nah, the junior novel says that since Yoda was lighter, he was thrown further and higher, and had nothing to break his fall (until he slipped off the Chancellor's podium) unlike Sidious, who managed to grab onto the end of the Senate pod.