Oh. I missed that one...
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well I've never considered that the imbalance of the force is what gave him his power and I'm not inclined to now nor will I ever be inclined to believe so.
I'm totally surprised. A guy named Sidious ignoring a fact that would make the character Sidious look weaker? Gosh. Who would have thought about that?! 🙄
With that a neutral ground I mean him disarming him in the senate room, this neutral ground gives Sidious gets to use his force speed the way he wants to, Yoda can't fall from a high place, no one is hindered. So balance of the force has and will never be a factor in any of the threads I create or debate in as I don't believe that had anything to do with it. The Imbalance of the force he to get there some how and that woudl mean the dark spiders Bent it to their will which shows great power. Then when you look at DE Sidious he puts both ROTS and ROTJ incarnations of himself to utter shame and guess what if there was an imbalance in the force if would be for the lightside and guess what he kicked the greatest practioners of ito butt. So that "theory" of yours while I say plausible unlikely.
Come again? This time in English, please.
From what I've understood, let me just say this: Your beliefs are entirely irrelevant in debates here. We deal with canon. Canon states clearly, that Sidious received a noticeable boost in power from the unbalancing in the Force while the Jedi's ability to use the Force were diminished. So, for a "truely neutral" setting, Sidious would be less powerful while Yoda would be more powerful.
@Sinious
Originally posted by Sinious
Yoda disarmed him while Sidious was in a disadvantageous position as he had to stand still and fight Yoda without pulling off any acrobatic stunts which is not how he usually duals(not to mention missing a saber) while Yoda wasn't experiencing the disadvantage of his height due to the platforms shape.
One word for you: Wrong!
I've demonstrated mathematically, that the Senate pod is a position of advantage for Sidious, because of what it would mean to fight a foe with Yoda's height on equal ground right here. I guess, that not having to sacrifice 1/3 to 1/2 of his range advantage and 2/3s of the manouvers you can utilize, in order to be capable of hitting your opponent, counts as advantage.
I never said Sidious has the edge, I said they should be about equal but if people start making arguments based on the smallest of details to give Yoda the edge, I can simply return the favor.
Because disarming an opponent in a lightsaber fight is "a small detail" when attempting to compare the fencing skill of the two beings involved in the fight?
Sidious had the upper hand in the TK fight cause he positioned himself better just like Yoda had the upper hand in the dual cause of the same reason. Better usage of environment seems like a determining factor there. Its probably cause they are so close in every department.
Wrong. See above.
And it is Sidious who picks the Senate pod for the lightsaber fight, not Yoda. I don't think that Sidious would move the fight to a place in which he would be at disadvantage. Which he doesn't, as demonstrated in the posting linked above.
However, let us not forget one thing: Sidious had already won in the big picture and had everything to lose where Yoda had nothing to lose. He was also there to assassinate Sidious. This is an awkward situation for Sidious since as a dark sider and a master of manipulating his rage, being on the defensive is not a very practical stand for him. On a flat terrain with no morals etc, if I had to pick a side, I'd pick Sidious as he still managed to have the upper hand at the end of the fight despite all his disadvantages but I'm still suggesting that calling it a stalemate is a healthy way of approaching it.
Yoda, fighting from a position of disadvantage, apparently disarmed Sidious in a lightsaber fight.
Yoda on equal ground with Sidious, was about to defeat him in the Force contest, too, just before the Force energy exploded. Sidious was pushed from leaning forward into his attack to leaning backwards during that brief contest.
The only reason why Yoda lost was because there weren't fighting on equal ground. He wouldn't have lost his lightsaber permanently by Sidious' final attack and there wouldn't have been a possibility to drop down from a rather great height. And, of course, we wouldn't have Clone Troopers on their way to save the Chancellor, as was the case in RotS.