Originally posted by Juk3n
I get it, and really you've already won the argument, because those PISY stealth feats ARE allowed. But I just can't agree with them in the same category as the rest. People , small guys even are ABNORMALLY strong, it happens, genetics are on their side, and people are abnormally smart, it happens, genetics are on their side. So here we have a comic where a character is ALL THING S EXCELLENT in humanity in regards to speed, strength and brains. Fine, it COULD happen. Not to that degree, but we can have human bodybuilders who hold multiple degrees and have learned multiple martial arts AND who are insanely agile and quick. Those things all in one person ARE unique and special, but they're also not TOO farfetched.Batman is just a large exaggeration of that. And because it's a comic, I can accepts it. But THOSE abilities are CLEARLY defined. Right? Those traits, however exaggerated they are, are GROUNDED enough to pass without throwing up a red flag. Because even having all that knowledge he's acquired, he is still susceptible to the laws of frickin physics, EVEN IF THEY ARE COMIC BOOK PHYSICS. So him lifting a Ton under duress, can be granted. He's batman. Him falling 3 stories and suffering no lasting damage, granted. Because these are just exaggerations of real world scenerios. They have grounding, of a sort.
Control over the audio-spectrum however is NOT something attributed to any human ever in existence, to any degree. A man can lift 250kg in real life, so I can suspend my disbelief that a COMIC book man can lift more. Usain Bolt can run +30 mph, so I can suspend disbelief that a comicbook man can run faster. No human can mute the sound of his heart. Or the friction of his Lung lining against his ribcage as he slowly breathes. No human can have a negative, vacuum like affect on the air pressure around him as he moves, no matter how stealthy. Theres no gounding for those abilities because they do not come from a place of physical skill mastery, they are transcendent of humanity, so I do not grant them to batman, outside of PIS. And personally I don't think we should on a vs bored.
In powerlifting, being small is actually an advantage - look at all the top lifters (NOT bodybuilders, who are different altogether). I think Batman is 6'3.
But you hit the nail on the head. It's all exaggerations of real world things. His intelligence, his strength, his memory, his endurance, his pain tolerance, his will - and his stealth.
What Batman AS A WHOLE, has done, is not something attributed to any human. There are no bodybuilders (who are, as I mentioned, completely different from powerlifters) with multiple advanced degrees from great universities around the world (your Yales, Harvards, MITs etc) plus MA skills etc etc. If you think that THAT isn't farfetched, fair enough.
But I do. I think that it's completely stupid and equally farfetched (not boasting here, but getting an advanced degree in a technical subject from a top uni is incredibly hard, let alone several).
