Originally posted by Robtard
"I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with."She says she was suspended, she denies making the bomb threat.
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"This stupid district"? She sounds delightful.
Originally posted by long pigNah, even if all those unsubstantiated claims are true(which is unlikely), you're still the guy who went "Muslim! He's guilty!" from the start before you knew anything besides the kid being Muslim and having a "scary" name. LoL.
Not only is he a liar, he's also stupid and a cheat?Wow. This is embarrassing for robtard and his elk.
Here's the TX statute about hoax bombs:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly manufactures, sells, purchases, transports, or possesses a hoax bomb with intent to use the hoax bomb to:
(1) make another believe that the hoax bomb is an explosive or incendiary device; or
(2) cause alarm or reaction of any type by an official of a public safety agency or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies.
While we cannot prove the kid's actual intentions, it can be argued that he may well be guilty of (2).
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Hopefully next time someone brings an exposed wire clock to a building that looks suspiciously like a bomb, everyone takes it at face value and thinks nothing of it.Because the story could in no way have turned into "Kid bombs hundreds of students, told everyone it was a clock".
That ignores a lot of context. The school isn't being blamed for taking the kid out of class and asking questions. It's how they reacted after being told "it's a clock".
If they legit thought it was a bomb, they would have evacuated, called the cops and no one would have blamed them, cos they were not taking any chances.
Originally posted by Robtard
That ignores a lot of context. The school isn't being blamed for taking the kid out of class and asking questions. It's how they reacted after being told "it's a clock".If they legit thought it was a bomb, they would have evacuated, called the cops and no one would have blamed them, cos they were not taking any chances.
Originally posted by Robtard"It's just a clock guys, let's have an all school assembly in the gym"
If the kid had in some fashion made a threat, like telling a student he felt like blowing something up, sure, you'd have a point. But as noted, he stuck to "it's a clock" when the teacher(s) first asked him, that's where it should have ended, take the "bomb" away and send him back to class. They're supposed to be the adults, not diaperbabies that overact to a possible trolling.If he did that, the answer could be as simple as "he's a dumbass 14 year old". We know he's a shit for faking an invention.
Originally posted by Robtard
To be fair though, that kid (Jessie E) is a Caucasian male. He is more likely to go on a school killing spree, at least in America. I'd probably have just snapped his neck, better safe than sorry.
Originally posted by RobtardOr they realized that the kid was ****ing with them when he brought a bomb looking clock to school when there was no sort of show and tell and he locked it with a cord. They either thought it was a bomb or they thought he was trying to scare everyone.
That ignores a lot of context. The school isn't being blamed for taking the kid out of class and asking questions. It's how they reacted after being told "it's a clock".If they legit thought it was a bomb, they would have evacuated, called the cops and no one would have blamed them, cos they were not taking any chances.
Either way he should be punished.
Just because he says "it's a clock" that isn't enough evidence to just take him at face value. That's how naive people get killed. There's a reason cap guns and the like aren't allowed in schools and you get in deep shit for having them. Schools do not like when you try to screw with them and will make an example of you.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Or they realized that the kid was ****ing with them when he brought a bomb looking clock to school when there was no sort of show and tell and he locked it with a cord. They either thought it was a bomb or they thought he was trying to scare everyone.Either way he should be punished.
Just because he says "it's a clock" that isn't enough evidence to just take him at face value. That's how naive people get killed. There's a reason cap guns and the like aren't allowed in schools and you get in deep shit for having them. Schools do not like when you try to screw with them and will make an example of you.
Naïve people can get killed by believing something is actually a bomb and not acting accordingly. If we're going with "the school felt a legitimate threat" path again.
Originally posted by RobtardYour main point is that his word should be believed when he is being incredibly shady about it.
Good job not being a dumbass.
It doesn't just extend to one area. You're under the assumption that not telling anyone it's a bomb should allow you free reign to do what you want as long as you say "it's a clock". That's not how bombs work all the time. Not everyone is giving away information that what they're going to do will kill people. Some do, some don't. If something looks shady, it's a good idea to investigate regardless of the words because people lie.
Then you think that the school shouldn't punish him for this? You have children, don't you? Here's an experiment for you to try. Paint up a cap gun to look like a real one and tell your child to point it at people under the context that it is definitely a "cap gun". See how much the school gives him the "oh you!"
Originally posted by RobtardGood, then they made a wrong decision that endangered hundreds. That's beside the point though.
Naïve people can get killed by believing something is actually a bomb and not acting accordingly. If we're going with "the school felt a legitimate threat" path again.
If you hadn't noticed I'm using logic for both cases. Real and under the pretense that it's definitely a hoax.
If they thought it was real then they screwed up and endangered everyone.
If they knew it was fake and knew he was screwing with them then they acted in accordance to what a school would do.
Either way he should be punished for it. Especially since they was zero reason to bring a bomb looking clock into the school. I think that's the kicker here. Had there been a science fair or something I'd be all for them jumping the gun here. But to my understanding there wasn't.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Your main point is that his word should be believed when he is being incredibly shady about it.It doesn't just extend to one area. You're under the assumption that not telling anyone it's a bomb should allow you free reign to do what you want as long as you say "it's a clock". That's not how bombs work all the time. Not everyone is giving away information that what they're going to do will kill people. Some do, some don't. If something looks shady, it's a good idea to investigate regardless of the words because people lie.
Then you think that the school shouldn't punish him for this? You have children, don't you? Here's an experiment for you to try. Paint up a cap gun to look like a real one and tell your child to point it at people under the context that it is definitely a "cap gun". See how much the school gives him the "oh you!"
Not just him saying "it's a clock" from the start, he was taken out of class and the "bomb" was looked it. It doesn't take a bomb expert to realize that what he had wasn't actually a bomb, but some electric bits, hence the school not being evacuated. If anything, they should have taken the clock away, sent him back to class and called his parents.
If it's proven he had malicious intentions of making a bomb scare and just wasn't a little turd who tried to pass off an "invention" as being legitimate, sure. Expel his ass out of school, but the school pretty much ruined that by initially overreacting.
Originally posted by RobtardSo you're under the assumption that if something isn't real, then they shouldn't be punished for it?
Not just him saying "it's a clock" from the start, he was taken out of class and the "bomb" was looked it. It doesn't take a bomb expert to realize that what he had wasn't actually a bomb, but some electric bits, hence the school not being evacuated. If anything, they should have taken the clock away, sent him back to class and called his parents.If it's proven he had malicious intentions of making a bomb scare and just wasn't a little turd who tried to pass off an "invention" as being legitimate, sure. Expel his ass out of school, but the school pretty much ruined that by initially overreacting.
And lol at figuring out what is or what isn't a bomb from a glance. They're teachers. They don't know the inner workings of bombs and how they work. There's also the fact that the thing looked more like a bomb than a ****ing clock when you open it.
"With my degree in mathematics I can 100 percent say this is more clock than bomb. Open and shut case... which for whatever reason has a clock in ot this day."
And the intent angle doesn't work either considering he said nothing besides "it was a clock". This isn't a suitable example to figure out intent. Like I said, "it's a clock" doesn't just overrule any sort of questioning going on.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
So you're under the assumption that if something isn't real, then they shouldn't be punished for it?
Would you feel at ease if cap guns were allowed in schools as well as plastic knives? Would you feel sorry for a kid questioned by the cops if he was pointing a cap gun at your kid's head?And lol at figuring out what is or what isn't a bomb from a glance. They're teachers. They don't know the inner workings of bombs and how they work.
And the intent angle doesn't work either considering he said nothing besides "it was a clock". This isn't a suitable example to figure out intent. Like I said, "it's a clock" doesn't just overrule any sort of questioning going on.
You're comparing simulated weapons and a possible act of making a threat (pointing a gun) to a clock.
Again, if they legitimately felt it was a bomb (which I have no problem with), they would have evacuated the school. They obviously were not fearing for their lives.
LoL, wut? "It's a clock" is a fairly explanatory statement of what the device is and does. The kid also said he brought it to show his science teacher or something along those lines, op story.