What I don't get is that why liberals are able to defend a kid for "making" something (that he didn't really make) because they believe there is a lack of proof of his intentions but are all too eager to jump on the throats of an entire school's staff (heck the entire state of Texas) and calling them racists even though they have little to no proof that the staff were motivated by such and the reasonings behind their actions were actually pretty reasonable....
Double standards?
Originally posted by NibedicusThis is actually a fair point. While long pig and TI are possessed of subhuman cognitive capabilities, people who shamelessly stated that the teachers or whoever are definitely racist were being just as stupid (my opinion was that there probably was discrimination going on judging by the loaded questions the police threw his way though), and you're not likely to get a response from the people who made those claims, much like you're not likely to get anything that qualifies as empirical evidence from clowns like TI and long pig.
What I don't get is that why liberals are able to defend a kid for "making" something (that he didn't really make) because they believe there is a lack of proof of his intentions but are all too eager to jump on the throats of an entire school's staff (heck the entire state of Texas) and calling them racists even though they have little to no proof that the staff were motivated by such and the reasonings behind their actions were actually pretty reasonable....Double standards?
Originally posted by NemeBro
This is actually a fair point. While long pig and TI are possessed of subhuman cognitive capabilities, people who shamelessly stated that the teachers or whoever are definitely racist were being just as stupid (my opinion was that there probably was discrimination going on judging by the loaded questions the police threw his way though), and you're not likely to get a response from the people who made those claims, much like you're not likely to get anything that qualifies as empirical evidence from clowns like TI and long pig.
Look here shoes, This was all stated by me but everyone went back to the "islamaphobic" comments. As far as OP and others they are hell bent on saying the school and teachers are biggots and racist. And I didn't know you were appointed backseat moderator as well as finding a slick way to make insults.
Originally posted by long pig
This douchebag wont stop. You didn't invent the clock, you filthy terrorist.
He claims he invented a clock now?
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialI don't recall trying to enforce the rules.
Look here shoes, This was all stated by me but everyone went back to the "islamaphobic" comments. As far as OP and others they are hell bent on saying the school and teachers are biggots and racist. And I didn't know you were appointed backseat moderator as well as finding a slick way to make insults.
I was saying you're stupid. And you are. You're a shameless piggyback-rider who has never had an original thought in his life.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=618020&pagenumber=2
Take this thread for example.
"Well we ripped their playbook up, what will they think of next?"
What the **** is this "we" shit? You sucked off on the shit long pig was posting and then tried to claim victory for someone else's "work", for lack of better term. You do this a lot. You did it when you tried to claim victory for whatever the **** you thought you won earlier in this thread and Backfire made you look the fool you are.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't recall trying to enforce the rules.I was saying you're stupid. And you are. You're a shameless piggyback-rider who has never had an original thought in his life.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=618020&pagenumber=2
Take this thread for example.
"Well we ripped their playbook up, what will they think of next?"
What the **** is this "we" shit? You sucked off on the shit long pig was posting and then tried to claim victory for someone else's "work", for lack of better term. You do this a lot. You did it when you tried to claim victory for whatever the **** you thought you won earlier in this thread and Backfire made you look the fool you are.
You sound even more mad then Lestov now. Just because you didn't like the joke, then dont laugh bro.
Backfire never proved anything and came up empty handed in the end.
Saying we ripped up their play book means we don't care about the usual go to's insults and "racist, biggot, islamaphobia" crap. Thats all anyone does here on the lft is just scream the same thing over and over.
Did you not read Saul Alinski's stuff? I guess you didn't.
Educate yourself before you look like the fool you do now.
Also I didn't know you spoke for long pig, so lets see what he has to say, shoes.
By the way, what original thought have you ever had, I'm curious, because if you did, it sounds important, please link me.
Originally posted by Nibedicuslike nemebro said it's a fair point... i think it's easy to assume bigotry played a part because "muslim" and "bomb" sort of go hand in hand in the mainstream conscious these days, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was bigotry
What I don't get is that why liberals are able to defend a kid for "making" something (that he didn't really make) because they believe there is a lack of proof of his intentions but are all too eager to jump on the throats of an entire school's staff (heck the entire state of Texas) and calling them racists even though they have little to no proof that the staff were motivated by such and the reasonings behind their actions were actually pretty reasonable....Double standards?
i feel like it was obvious it wasn't a bomb though, which is what makes me sort of resent a kid getting arrested over it... regardless of whether he was muslim or not. honestly, i dislike a lot of the "zero tolerance" type policies that schools have. it reminds me of when i brought this fossil claw to school and it was confiscated as a weapon. i wasn't arrested... and in a sense, yea, i could conceivably use it as a weapon. and the school was notorious for gang violence (it was a middle school, grade 6-8). stuff like beaded necklaces and shit were likewise banned because they could sometimes be used to rep gang colors. and the campus had glass-free bathrooms with mirrors made of metal and shit to prevent anyone from shattering them.
so i could sort of see the rationale behind it... yet at the same time, to be perfectly honest, if i really wanted to, i could use any number of school supplies that weren't banned as a weapon just as easily as i could the claw i brought. and it was clearly something i brought to science class to show the teacher, and they still said it was a weapon. that just seems pretty silly to me, considering you could do just as much damage with a pen or pencil, if you really wanted to.
so likewise i think since the first teacher to see it was an engineering teacher, and you literally have nothing other than a circuit board hooked to a digital display... that teacher should've known it wasn't a bomb. there's literally no excuse for him/her not knowing that, imo. so if the concern was that some other faculty or student might mistake it for a bomb... then the obvious solution would be for that teacher to confiscate the item, the same way my science teacher did. and tell the kid to have his parents come pick it up. arresting him seems completely pointless and over the top... and i have no sympathy for the idea that it is reasonable because of "zero tolerance." because what you are doing by arresting people over bullshit is you are alienating them and potentially instilling in them a criminal mindset... especially if you actually take them to jail/juvie.
imo anyway.
No one wants to answer the tough questions...
Why did the kid bring a digital clock to school when their was no project due that day.
Also look at this kid, since when did a 14 year old know so much about racism already..
Parents already gearing up for their law suit.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/27/parents-claim-ahmed-mohamed-severely-traumatized/
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"Here comes the lawsuit.
Ahmed has more in common with the "Flying Imams" that sued Northwest Airlines, than some sort of kid inventor.
Google invited Clockmed to their science fair, Kids were coming up with amazing world changing inventions, and then there is the special guest that took the case off a clock radio and put it in a box and set it off in class."
besides... let's assume for a second you're right about the kid's intention
let's say he/his parents wanted to see if him being muslim and having a digital clock would prompt terror alerts... for political reasons
is that really something we want people to be arrested for? conservatives/republicans are supposedly all about small govt and protecting people from the abuses of big govt interfering with our lives, yet you want someone arrested cause they made/brought a dismantled clock to school?
it didn't pose an actual threat so what exactly it the purpose of that? it would be different if he issued some sort of bomb threat or if he made a fake bomb that wasn't explosive but could conceivably be a bomb. and maybe it's me who is ignorant towards engineering... but as far as i know you can't make a bomb out of a circuit board and a digital display. you need to hook that to something else that could conceivably explode. a circuit board isn't going to explode. surely an engineering teacher could figure that one out?
again, confiscate the item. if you really need to discipline him, use detention or iss or suspension. arresting him is pointless. it's this kind of shit that is bringing us closer and closer to living in a police state.
and you guys think you're keeping us safe from that by buying guns... yet here you are supporting the police state.
Originally posted by red g jacks
besides... let's assume for a second you're right about the kid's intentionlet's say he/his parents wanted to see if him being muslim and having a digital clock would prompt terror alerts... for political reasons
is that really something we want people to be arrested for? conservatives/republicans are supposedly all about small govt and protecting people from the abuses of big govt interfering with our lives, yet you want someone arrested cause they made/brought a dismantled clock to school?
it didn't pose an actual threat so what exactly it the purpose of that? it would be different if he issued some sort of bomb threat or if he made a fake bomb that wasn't explosive but could conceivably be a bomb. and maybe it's me who is ignorant towards engineering... but as far as i know you can't make a bomb out of a circuit board and a digital display. you need to hook that to something else that could conceivably explode. a circuit board isn't going to explode. surely an engineering teacher could figure that one out?
again, confiscate the item. if you really need to discipline him, use detention or iss or suspension. arresting him is pointless. it's this kind of shit that is bringing us closer and closer to living in a police state.
and you guys think you're keeping us safe from that by buying guns... yet here you are supporting the police state.
Why are the liberals here not blaming the police for arresting him? Guess why...Because the cop that arrested him was black.
This whole story is a double standard.
Why is it only a cops fault for a bad arrest when he is white? Why is there is there never fault when its a black cop? Why is the cop not being called a biggot?
Oh I forgot, on KMC black's don't do wrong.
Only white conservatives are racist, even though liberals started the KKK.
Only white conservatives are racist even though liberals started PP to wipe blacks off the map.
Its a stupid double standard here and in the real world. Im sick of it.
Did you even look at this picture?
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/16/9335965/ahmed-mohamed-14-year-old-arrested-clock-hoax-bomb
Originally posted by Time-Immemoriallol, you're just as guilty as the other side though... the only reason you care is most likely cause it involves a muslim kid
Why are the liberals here not blaming the police for arresting him? Guess why...Because the cop that arrested him was black.This whole story is a double standard.
Why is it only a cops fault for a bad arrest when he is white? Why is there is there never fault when its a black cop? Why is the cop not being called a biggot?
Oh I forgot, on KMC black's don't do wrong.
Only white conservatives are racist, even though liberals started the KKK.
Only white conservatives are racist even though liberals started PP to wipe blacks off the map.
Its a stupid double standard here and in the real world. Im sick of it.
Did you even look at this picture?
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/16/9335965/ahmed-mohamed-14-year-old-arrested-clock-hoax-bomb
ask yourself this... if it was your son would you think it was right he got arrested for that?
i don't know what the law is regarding this.. but i'm not alleviating the cop of blame nor condemning them because i don't know what the law is. if there's a specific law he broke and the school pressed charges then the cop has no choice but to carry out the arrest... has nothing to do with whether he's black or white.
if the cop trumped up some charges to satisfy the school then the cop is equally to blame.. the bottom line is i don't think this is the kind of thing people should be getting arrested for. and before you tout the double standard rhetoric take a look in the mirror and ask yourself if your own positions aren't just as influenced by ideological/political bias. you know, like jesus said to do.