Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Great this has become another Goku vs comics thread...cause that's just what we need right now. With that said there's still the silly reason for Goku and Beerus punches hardly doing any damage to the Earth to address.
The further the shockwaves went, the more destruction it was causing to the point that if they landed another blow, EVERYTHING would've crumbled. The entire Universe would've been destroyed. It's a manga. If think in the box and stop using real world logic for a cartoon, then you'll get it because everything was explained. Crazy thing is, even though Earth wasnt destroyed, planets and suns around Earth was being ripped. Unless Earth have the durability of Goku and Beerus, it's pretty got darn clear what the Kai's said were true. Earth was the closest planet to Goku and Beerus which is the reason it wasn't destroyed but if Beerus and Goku would've clashed again, everything, dimensions, the universe, and earth would've been gone.
Hope I helped.
Originally posted by carver9I was just point out that Squallx was using Thought Robot Superman as a way to prove Superman is stronger. The fact that he is using that Superman shows how powerful SSG Goku really is.
Naah. No Herald is close to Goku. I can't think of a single being in Marvel or DC that has almost destroyed a universe plus other dimensions with punches (while not even using the completion of their power). It doesn't exist. One of the best strength ft in comics/anime if you ask me.The only thing Goku and Beerus is missing is versatility but in DBS, seems like that doesn't even matter looking at the fact that there are beings that create life and planets, has shown matter manipulation but yet they still pale in power to the weakest of Goku transformations.
Originally posted by bbrem123
I was just point out that Squallx was using Thought Robot Superman as a way to prove Superman is stronger. The fact that he is using that Superman shows how powerful SSG Goku really is.
I thought the thought Robot was a combination of Superman and Ultraman? Not just Supes.
Originally posted by bbrem123
It was addressed in the manga. It is very straight forward. Nothing to discuss.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I meant in relation to RoF and whether or not SSGSS is supposed to be more powerful than this not the shockwaves/space ripples themselves: probably should've clarified. Also its still a silly excuse for the Earth to not be destroyed.
I agree it is silly but hey. Stuff like that happens all the time in comics/mangas.
Originally posted by SquallX
You're so ****ing pathetic is not even funny.It's funny, because this thread has nothing to do with Superman, yet you morons takes every chance you get to bring him up.
Beerus was only hinted, not shown. Big difference.
PC sneezed and a solar system was destroyed, image if he actually tried. You're fail once more. PC best showing was being near to ending all of creations by flying so fast, that the Spectre himself had to appear and stop him.
Thinking any Goku can defeat the Thought Robot. 😆
That Superman held the DC Multiverse in the palm of his hands like it was nothing.
Guess what, Goku's God form was something he achieved through the help of others. Just like his God form is his, so is the thought Robot to Superman.
If Kal wants, he could just erase the Dbz verse with one trigger squeeze from his Miracle Machine.
Also, personal life aside, pretty sure this place is the highlight of you're life.
Okay, first off, you're being reported. If you're too stupid to debate, then you shouldn't be here in the first place.
Now:
1. You and Carver were the one's who brought up Superman. And you brought up Hulk in the first place. You were LITERALLY the first person to bring them up, so point that finger at yourself, pal. Here's the direct quote;
Originally posted by SquallX
No it ****ing doesn't, not when later showings contradict said statements.Bios claims Hulk to be the strongest there is, but we know that's false.
Bios claims Haku from Naruto is light speed in his mirrors, and we know that's false.
2. Nothing was "hinted". Elder Kai EXPLICITLY stated that Beerus and Goku clashing was destroying the universe, and that if they did it two and a half more times, that the ENTIRE UNIVERSE would be COMPLETELY DESTROYED. And these were just PUNCHES. Superman can't even destroy a PLANET with a punch.
Here is the link to the episode: http://animeshow.tv/Dragon-Ball-Super-episode-12/
3. PC Superman's best showing was sneezing away a solar system. Like I said.
What you just said, about nearly destroying the universe by flying too fast, is literally not what happened, AT ALL.
All he was doing was flying so fast that he nearly flew into heaven. Nothing more, nothing less. He wasn't going to destroy anything, other than himself. Stop lying. 👆
4. I said that Goku could beat any Superman, but the Thought Robot. And if Superman get's the thought Robot, then Goku get's the Potara earrings, and SSJGSSJ Vegeta, meaning that it would be SSJGSSJ Vegetto, against the thought robot. And since Goku is already a casual universe buster himself, Vegetto would be a multiverse buster in base form. And in SSJGSSJ, he'd be demonstrably stronger than anything that the Thought Robot has ever shown capable of doing.
5. The Thought Robot never held the multiverse. Stop. Lying.
6. Either show the feats you're claiming, or stop claiming bs. You realize you're a joke to everyone on here, right?
Theres very few showings of dragon ball characters running, but when they do it's not very fast. I wouldn't put them on sonic's level of speed, which sound speed. Movement speed have to do with a foot race right? Then saitama top them. I'll give strength to saitama too. Being able to hit a person from earth to the moon has to be real strong, despite not lifting anything. And as for ki blast. They can destroy a planet I know that, the planet itself is weaker than their durability, which is why the frieza was able to destroy it so easy, but the planetary explosion was too much for vegeta and frieza. Remember when frost put that needle in goku? Just how hard is that substance to penetrate his skin? And they tried to kill goku with a missile, which trunks saved him from. This lead me to believe that the missile could kill him. And they tried to snipe goku black, and he was saved by the earring I think. And goku body got penetrated by a laser beam from one of frieza's men. So they can't take a lot of heat, and conventional weapons can still hurt them. Santana fought with boros inside his own laser beam, which was melting things as they fought and some of that was metal. So I put saitama's durability towards energy projection above goku's. And finally, the steam from megatta was making vegeta sweat, not even the lava, I'll say that's enough to give the fight to saitama.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
****ing stupid thread.Saitama's highest showing dealt with a POSSIBLY planet-level threat, even if we assume he used like 1% of his power that's still not 0.1% remotely threatening to Goku.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Goku's highest showing as of the Saiyan Saga also dealt with a possibly-planet-level threat, and unlike in the case of Saitama, that showing clearly required him to bring to bear the full extent of his strength. Meanwhile, we don't know for sure if Saitama even has a limit, let alone it only being at the level of what he has already demonstrated. Not so inclined to agree with your assessment. 👇
Wasn't it said the effects of Gods of Destruction fighting each other all-out could lead to the destruction of the universe?
Although... Beerus has fought so we don't know how reliable that is.
Also no offence but just because he's shown no limits doesn't mean he has no limits. Especially when you consider that his strongest opponent thus far was MAYBE (likely) a planet-buster.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
The Saiyan Saga is so insignificant Goku could kill himself, Vegeta, Nappa, and all the Z-Warriors by fighting NEAR them.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Wasn't it said the effects of Gods of Destruction fighting each other all-out could lead to the destruction of the universe?Although... Beerus has fought so we don't know how reliable that is.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Also no offence but just because he's shown no limits doesn't mean he has no limits. Especially when you consider that his strongest opponent thus far was MAYBE (likely) a planet-buster.
Vegeta around the Raditz saga was planetary and Namek Goku dwarfed him in power. You limiting Goku to only earth level destruction is funny. Hes obviously magnitudes more powerful than Boros who could only shave Earth. Saying anything otherwise is DAF. I still don't understand why people still put these type of limitations on DB characters.