Read an article that suggested Kasich came out well. Not because he had the best arguments or one-liners, but because he did things like discuss actual policies and at one point chastised the moderator for not focusing more on policy. For those bored at deciding who won the grade-school shouting match, he's emerging as a legitimately solid alternative.
I still think Kasich's main power is going to be as a home run VP choice for whoever gets the nomination, especially because he can help to bring Ohio. Something like a Rubio/Kasich ticket might have the best chance in the general election vs. Democrats.
Originally posted by Digi
For those bored at deciding who won the grade-school shouting match, he's emerging as a legitimately solid alternative.
The moderator was the one making the candidates pick the fights and attacking each, and if you didn't bite like Carson did not, he forgot about you.
Anyone with half a brain could see this, but wait, people are stupid so they missed it.
The moderator was a Cartman, and a idiot and should be fired.
Originally posted by Digi
He was, yes, you're right about that. It was bad moderating.But these are people campaigning to become the most influential person on the planet. It's possible to rise above such stupidity without being timid. It was not a zero-sum game.
Do you agree with my comments on Kasich?
Like I said though, Carson did rise above it and refused to attack trump and the moderator left him in the dust.
Kasich was good. But he is a politician and his words to me mean jack shit honestly. I want a guy in office who wants to win for the American people and not be a doormat for the rest of the world.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Like I said though, Carson did rise above it and refused to attack trump and the moderator left him in the dust.Kasich was good. But he is a politician and his words to me mean jack shit honestly. I want a guy in office who wants to win for the American people and not be a doormat for the rest of the world.
Yeah, Carson is smart. He knew not to attack him. Anyone who has gone after Trump has paid for it one way or another. Usually, by dropping in the polls.
I really hope someone from the Democratic side shines, because none of these Republican nominee's really has my vote. I didn't really see any leadership qualities from any of them. And its obvious we speak English in America DT doesn't have to remind us of this.
No wonder Europeans think Americans are idiots. English only , while they're speaking 2 or 3 languages on the norm.
Originally posted by Star428
Yeah, Carson is smart. He knew not to attack him. Anyone who has gone after Trump has paid for it one way or another. Usually, by dropping in the polls.
Sadly since the stupid idiot moderator did that to Carson, he ended up not doing that great in the polls..
I hope he is drawn, quartered and fired.
It was stupid to watch. Over on hero chat, those idiots thought it was the debators fault for attacking each other, clearly their brains are the size of their nuts.
Originally posted by Facee
I really hope someone from the Democratic side shines, because none of these Republican nominee's really has my vote. I didn't really see any leadership qualities from any of them. And its obvious we speak English in America DT doesn't have to remind us of this.No wonder Europeans think Americans are idiots. English only , while they're speaking 2 or 3 languages on the norm.
And do you know why we only speak English? Because that is our language here. And the Europeans have 40 countries smashed together so they have to.
Very ignorant statement from you.
How many people in the UK speak more then one language😂
Oh Right, they speak English, the fastest growing language in the world.
Originally posted by Facee
I really hope someone from the Democratic side shines, because none of these Republican nominee's really has my vote. I didn't really see any leadership qualities from any of them. And its obvious we speak English in America DT doesn't have to remind us of this.No wonder Europeans think Americans are idiots. English only , while they're speaking 2 or 3 languages on the norm.
Good luck at anyone other than Sanders looking anything but dumb from the democratic side. Europeans can think whatever they want, but their self proclaimed intellect isn't factually based on anything, it's what they'd like to tell themselves. We in America want English to be the dominant language, NOT the only language necessarily spoken. Also, it's funny when you equate bi/trilingual to intelligence. I suppose I can equate economic success to intelligence as well, which makes Europe (except for 3-4 countries) the equivalent of a retarded cousin.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And do you know why we only speak English? Because that is our language here. And the Europeans have 40 countries smashed together so they have to.Very ignorant statement from you.
How many people in the UK speak more then one language😂
Oh Right, they speak English, the fastest growing language in the world.
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Agree with everything you said here.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Good luck at anyone other than Sanders looking anything but dumb from the democratic side. Europeans can think whatever they want, but their self proclaimed intellect isn't factually based on anything, it's what they'd like to tell themselves. We in America want English to be the dominant language, NOT the only language necessarily spoken. Also, it's funny when you equate bi/trilingual to intelligence. I suppose I can equate economic success to intelligence as well, which makes Europe (except for 3-4 countries) the equivalent of a retarded cousin.
Agree. I always laugh at people who think how many languages someone speaks is a measure of their intelligence. Intelligence can be measured in many different ways. THe fact that they think how many languages someone speaks is the only indicator of intelligence actually indicates that they're lacking in intelligence themselves. And you're right, Europeans are usually the ones making themselves look stupid by doing this. I usually just laugh and ignore them.
-Found myself agreeing most with Rand, Kasich and Carson on a few issues. Even Trump had a point or two that gelled with me, though he spent little time making actual points.
-Huckabee, Cruz and Rubio, they're like the oil to my water. They've just got to go.
-Bush is stale/boring, but he did well explaining and defending his points regardless if you agree or disagree. The only time he seemed to let his emotions take control was when Trump took a dig at his brother. Overall, I think Bush is most likely to get the nom at this point.
-Trump opening up with the clown show while entertaining, hurts the GOP overall. Rand did well in throwing it back without stooping to clownery himself.
-Didn't actually count how many times Hillary was named dropped, but it was fewer than the first debate. Which imo, is smart of them.
Originally posted by Facee
I really hope someone from the Democratic side shines, because none of these Republican nominee's really has my vote. I didn't really see any leadership qualities from any of them. And its obvious we speak English in America DT doesn't have to remind us of this.No wonder Europeans think Americans are idiots. English only , while they're speaking 2 or 3 languages on the norm.
From someone who actually does speak 3 languages and from where most ppl at the very least speak 2, I can tell you that # of languages is not a good metric for intellect.
Originally posted by Robtard
-Found myself agreeing most with Rand, Kasich and Carson on a few issues. Even Trump had a point or two that gelled with me, though he spent little time making actual points.-Huckabee, Cruz and Rubio, they're like the oil to my water. They've just got to go.
-Bush is stale/boring, but he did well explaining and defending his points regardless if you agree or disagree. The only time he seemed to let his emotions take control was when Trump took a dig at his brother. Overall, I think Bush is most likely to get the nom at this point.
-Trump opening up with the clown show while entertaining, hurts the GOP overall. Rand did well in throwing it back without stooping to clownery himself.
-Didn't actually count how many times Hillary was named dropped, but it was fewer than the first debate. Which imo is smart of them.
Bush is already down in the polls, sometimes I wonder if you think saying "Trump will never make it" enough it might come true.
It has actually proved the opposite, the more that people say it, the higher he goes, so keep saying it brah.
The clown show didn't start with Trump, again, are you blind, it was the moderator who started the clown show.
I don't think Carson is indicative of my point, though. I'm not saying they shouldn't be aggressive. I'm saying they shouldn't be going out of their way to be insulting to the others on the stage. Carson was and is too timid to shine in these things, but his is not the only way to rise above the nonsense. For what it's worth, I've seen a couple articles saying he came away unscathed. Perhaps not a winner, but as someone who can continue to climb quietly in the polls.
Kasich might get my vote; I doubt any of the others would. But he's a successful sitting Governor, despite having some detractors (as everyone does). So he actually has some credibility behind his statements and ability to lead.
On to other things, here's an article about fact-checking some of the night's claims:
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-whos-trump-bush-clash-014319916--election.html#
I also saw another interesting article (that I can't find now), about Trump's unwillingness to define certain policies. Statements like "We're going to be winners again. Nobody is going to mess with us." are substitutes for foreign policy, for example. Clearly he's shown that a significant portion of his voter base doesn't care about such things. But we're all deluding ourselves into thinking it won't cost him votes at some point. As a case-in-point, take a look at a line from TI on this page:
I want a guy in office who wants to win for the American people and not be a doormat for the rest of the world.
Trump's approach clearly works here. I just think speaking in platitudes will only get him so far, and as yet, I don't really know how he stacks up on certain issues.
I wont vote for a politician next year.
Ill vote for Trump/Carson or Carly.
If its Bush vs Sanders, Ill vote for Sanders. I cant stand these horrible backstabbing lying sob's anymore.
Thats it. Politicians are done in my book
Look what they did the past two years and in the house and senate.
Nothing changed, it was all lies.
Everything they do is lie, I dont care what they say up their, its all full of shit.
Obama lied about everything about Obama care.
Hilary Lied about all things, and so did Bill, they can all rot.