CNN GOP Debate

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Bush is already down in the polls, sometimes I wonder if you think saying "Trump will never make it" enough it might come true.

It has actually proved the opposite, the more that people say it, the higher he goes, so keep saying it brah.

The clown show didn't start with Trump, again, are you blind, it was the moderator who started the clown show.

It's till too early to call and my "I think Bush will end up with the nom" was my opinion, not stating facts.

You need to not act like a angry child every time someone doesn't join you in licking Trump's platinum lined anus.

Incorrect. Trump opened up with a childish dig at Rand. The moderator can do whatever he/she likes, the people up there choose to take the bait and act like a clown. You and your "It's not Trump's fault!!!!" rants. Cry more, he's a grown man and he's responsible for his own actions.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's till too early to call and my "I think Bush will end up with the nom" was my opinion, not stating facts.

You need to not act like a angry child every time someone doesn't join you in licking Trump's platinum lined anus.

Incorrect. Trump opened up with a childish dig at Rand. The moderator can do whatever he/she likes, the people up there choose to take the bait and act like a clown. "It's not Trump's fault!!!!". Cry more, he's a grown man and he's responsible for his own actions.

And his actions are destroying everyone else.

Kiss my platinum lined anus🙂

Carlies claim

"You ran up mountains of debt on business adventures with other peoples money"

HMMMMMM

I wonder who those people are that gave him all that money?

From Rich Fat Corporate/ Wallstreet Cats like yourself.

Gee did the term "risky investment" ever mean "guaranteed return on investment"

Its funny to see a capitalist who failed dig at another one who succeeded.

😂

Bush did shyly blame Obama for the Iraq troop withdrawal, so you two do have that in common.

Carly and Trump going at each other's business acumen while it made me laugh, again, not good for the party overall.

Trump did make her silently rage though, when he was talking about HP's failures. You could see the stress/rage on her jawline while he ranted.

Donald Trump won't even win the Republican nomination and you can quote me on that.

I was once told by an Air-Force Captain that what makes America so successful is our military might not our intellectual scholars.

Also, I see a lot of countries ahead of us in the education department.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/category/education/

Originally posted by Facee

No wonder Europeans think Americans are idiots. English only , while they're speaking 2 or 3 languages on the norm.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
From someone who actually does speak 3 languages and from where most ppl at the very least speak 2, I can tell you that # of languages is not a good metric for intellect.

Face, nice dodge here, but we wont forget about it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bush did shyly blame Obama for the Iraq troop withdrawal, so you two do have that in common.

Carly and Trump going at each other's business acumen while it made me laugh, again, not good for the party overall.

Trump did make her silently rage though, when he was talking about HP's failures. You could see the stress/rage on her jawline while he ranted.

Oh yea, she was mad as hell 😂

In terms of business success trump outranks her 10000000/1.

Even on CNN this morning, they are saying Trump rocked it.

Originally posted by Facee
Donald Trump won't even win the Republican nomination and you can quote me on that.

I was once told by an Air-Force Captain that what makes America so successful is our military might not our intellectual scholars.

Also, I see a lot of countries ahead of us in the education department.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/category/education/

When poor students are removed the United States ranks first in every major education category.

When people talk about education reform they really need to address the issue of poverty in America.

P.S. You are the UGLIEST poster in KMC history!

Its amazing to see the difference between Carlie and Hilary.

If it was Carly vs Hilary, Hill would be absolutely destroyed.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

When poor students are removed the United States ranks first in every major education category.

does this math also remove the underclass figures from competing nations?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Even on CNN this morning, they are saying Trump rocked it.

That should scare you. Because he had very little substance and relied on vague replies multiple times, when he wasn't deflect-attacking someone.

eg I think it was Rubio who asked how he'd be ready to lead as POTUS from day one, regarding his lack of political knowledge and statecraft, he gave his "I'll have the best people (didn't actually name anyone) and I'll know what I need to know by then.", typical BS type of answer.

Do you really want a president just because he's loud, obnoxious and trollishly amusing?

Originally posted by Digi
I don't think Carson is indicative of my point, though. I'm not saying they shouldn't be aggressive. I'm saying they shouldn't be going out of their way to be insulting to the others on the stage. Carson was and is too timid to shine in these things, but his is not the only way to rise above the nonsense. For what it's worth, I've seen a couple articles saying he came away unscathed. Perhaps not a winner, but as someone who can continue to climb quietly in the polls.

Kasich might get my vote; I doubt any of the others would. But he's a successful sitting Governor, despite having some detractors (as everyone does). So he actually has some credibility behind his statements and ability to lead.

On to other things, here's an article about fact-checking some of the night's claims:
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-whos-trump-bush-clash-014319916--election.html#

I also saw another interesting article (that I can't find now), about Trump's unwillingness to define certain policies. Statements like "We're going to be winners again. Nobody is going to mess with us." are substitutes for foreign policy, for example. Clearly he's shown that a significant portion of his voter base doesn't care about such things. But we're all deluding ourselves into thinking it won't cost him votes at some point. As a case-in-point, take a look at a line from TI on this page:
I want a guy in office who wants to win for the American people and not be a doormat for the rest of the world.

Trump's approach clearly works here. I just think speaking in platitudes will only get him so far, and as yet, I don't really know how he stacks up on certain issues.

so maybe sticking to just speaking in platitudes is paradoxically the more honest approach to politics

Originally posted by red g jacks
yea but then on the other hand, politicians often make a bunch of specific promises during the campaign trail only to abandon them later on...

so maybe sticking to just speaking in platitudes is paradoxically the more honest approach to politics

Bernie is the only one I've seen who has outright stated that he won't be able to do many things in the White House due to the political climate. A bit depressing, but honest.

Anyway, I disagree with your statement, because speaking in platitudes isn't more or less honest; it's just meaningless. Helping us to "win" more, for example, is an unfalsifiable statement. I'd at least rather hear what a candidate wants to do, even knowing that political forces won't allow them to complete the majority of their agenda. It's still better than having no idea what a candidate's policies are, and the possibility that specific policy details don't actually exist for that candidate, as I suspect they don't for Trump on many key issues.

i think what trump wants to do is pretty clear

he wants to win

and he's smart enough to realize that any specific policy he proposes will be put under the microscope by the left and the establishment right who want desperately to derail his campaign and his odds of winning the nomination

so in reality there's little for him to gain by getting specific with regard to his policies... 1) because yea some of it is just bluffing and he doesn't have all the answers and 2) because even where he does, it will be more of a liability to him than something that will help him gain traction. he's already coasting on a huge lead thanks to his vague platitudes and sentiments that a large portion of the population identify with... he doesn't want to risk that by going out on a limb with some specific policy points for the media to spend the next few months tearing apart

Or he just doesn't have them, nor the understanding needed to form them. I'd love to believe your interpretation, but I think it gives him way more credit than he is currently due. Because he won't lose his base by coming out with specifics. But I do think he'll fail to galvanize many whom he'll eventually need to win the nomination and general elections.

What a scary concept having Trump in control of the worlds greatest military force.

Am I the only person wondering where all of the Democratic Presidential candidates are? It's as if the upcoming election has been set up for the Republicans to sweep. I mean can it be any more obvious, or am I just imagining things?

i think you're giving his base more credit than they're due

they can absolutely be lost if it seems like trump is losing it... they're like a bunch of moths attracted to the light

i do think he lacks some of the specifics for some of his policies... and that's cause they're outrageous to begin with

but he embraces them to win over the moths who somehow think we can extort mexico into building a wall and use protectionist trade policies to bring back jobs from china... i have little doubt that he doesn't intend on following through with these policies... and i think the more specific he gets the more silly they will look and then he stands to lose some of his shine... and maybe the moths will gravitate over to carson instead... insert blacklight joke here

Well, October 13th will be the CNN Democrat debate... So who knows where they are. Republicans have like a million candidates so they need all this extra time.

Originally posted by Stoic
Am I the only person wondering where all of the Democratic Presidential candidates are? It's as if the upcoming election has been set up for the Republicans to sweep. I mean can it be any more obvious, or am I just imagining things?

No, they're just not worried. When you have a guy like Trump leading the party its pretty obvious the party is a joke at this point.