Originally posted by Bardock42
Also, how can Obama both be a weak, ineffectual president and leader, and a dangerous dictator possibly able to destroy and control the US in the next 1 and a half years....its like Republicans want him to be both a bumbling fool and a evil, genius mastermind at the same time.
Lets see he screwed Syria up good, Russia has flown in and strengthened Assad, and now Germany is paying the price as well as the rest of the EU. Oh yea, he did great!
Originally posted by Star428😂
Blame Bardock. He's the one who started bashing republicans.I don't give a shit if someone is gay (as long as they don't try any f*g crap on me) but having a gay person in charge of our army tends to worry me, yes. I don't care how much qualified they say he is for job it still makes me concerned.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I didn't reply to your post, because it doesn't relate to mine. It's perfectly fine to think Obama is a weak and ineffectual president, it just becomes odd and contradictory when one also thinks he's a Socialist/Muslim mastermind
So do you blame Obama/Hilary for wrecking Syria and now you have them banging down your front door?
How does it feel to have someone **** up and now you have to pay for it? Guess what thats what liberalism is in America and the world, ****ing this country and world up and now we have to fix it.
Better though for you, you can take advantage of that big German heart of yours and let these people into your homes and cook and provide for them.
Have you reached out to any humanitarian programs in Germany offering your hand via fiscal, time or offering your place up for displaced refugees? Or are you just a eHumanitarian on KMC, do you keep your doors locked to keep those scary Muslims out cause you don't know which one is ISIS or Al Queda?
Originally posted by psmith81992
The democratic party was excessively anti bush so what's the difference?
Well, while the democrats complained a ton about Bush, things were actually much more bi-partisan politically and more compromise happened in congress at the time- I mean, don't get me wrong, by historical standards it was pretty low, but similar to the level under Bill Clinton (and the number of filibusters jump up during Bill's time compared to his predecessors, but much less than Obama), and you had Democrats vote in favor of not just the Iraq war, but Bush's education reform (which turned out eh), medicare reform (which was a fairly good one by Bush), and such. Here's a chart of filibusters over time- you can see the very significant increase.
Under Obama, there is an unprecidented amount of blocking of completely mundane and routine things such as presidential appointments. Like the debt ceiling, was only ever intended to be a routine rubber-stamp (it is the equivalent of a company telling all it's creditors, "No, I won't pay you back the loans I already spent!". Nothing survives that), but the Republicans have twice gotten into fights over it, in order to try and stop his clearly-legally-passed policies that he had made central to his election campaign... including after his re-election, which was widely viewed as a referendum on said same policy. Indeed, even back during the debate of the health care plan, the part when they were supposed to be contributing, Republican planners were focused on continually delaying it as a way to sink it purely to turn it into 'Obama's waterloo'- using a healthcare debate that lasted months to not present their own version of healthcare (the only Conservative complete health plan I know of was proposed by Scott Walker- during this election cycle. Though I should mention the ACA is similar to a couple plans favored by conservatives in the 90s- it only seems to have become an abomination when Obama launched it), but as an attack on the opposing president who won a popular election on his support of just that topic, as their openly admitted political strategy.
And there's stuff like the Birther movement... which is just a racist group (that has support among elected Republican politicians) trying to deny that he's even a legitimate president in the first place. And in turn, when Republicans who actually were born in other countries with US presidents come up, barely batting an eye at them. Here's an articles that collects polls, that says Birther support ranges from the 30s to high 40% range among Republicans.
Basically, even though Obama won by a significant majority in both elections, larger than the amount George W. Bush viewed as giving him a mandate, a large portion of the Republican base refuses to even acknowledge he's a legitimate president- or legitimate American for that matter- and the Republican legislature has spent literally historic levels of effort into blocking him, not seen since the Civil War (which... well, let us never reach *that* bad). Any calls of 'weakness' should take into account that his opposition has resorted to a greater level of roadblocks than any in living memory (even for people who are 110+ years old), and yet even so he's managed to get a number of major policies past, ones with significant economic and health effect on the country.
Heck, the Iran deal? Remember the thing where they had a chance to do a review in the senate but couldn't get the votes? US Presidents have never had to go to congress for approval of such measures before, that literally only happened because Obama threw them a bone and knew that if he did not open the offer they'd just attack him over it and act like it was in their zone when it's always been an executive branch power.
He opened the possibility of being blocked when he did not have to.
Now, granted, offering your opponents the opportunity to stop you when you don't have to may not generally be considered the smarted move, but he did offer as a show of good faith, and it's not like that the Republican's level of opposition has accomplished much of anything- Indeed, there is so much effort going into blocking Obama, that they in turn are getting much less done than opposition parties normally do- because minority parties normally make deals with the majority, "Ok, we'll not-filiburster this and that if you throw us some votes on this." So I question the effectiveness of Republican tactics intelligence wise, since as they're unable to enact policy from their position either due to the climate they've set up, and Obama can do, while not much, a little, it just means that their opposition can manage to get stuff done but veeeery sloooowly, to their not getting stuff done.
And let's face it: That's why so many are going to Donald Trump and other 'outsider' candidates, because the Republicans are tired of their people not getting stuff done. And it's not because they aren't trying hard or don't have the will- Washington forbid, it's quite the opposite, they literally have historical levels of opposition!- it's because the US government is simply not set up to allow people in their position to get stuff done without compromise, and as long as they don't realize that and act accordingly, the same thing will happen, the same gridlock, as long as the position stays where it is.
Hate to bust your great speech, but Hilary is was the founder of the birther movement..
Sorry to crush your rant on "REPUBLICANS EVIL EMPIRE!"
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Hate to bust your great speech, but Hilary is was the founder of the birther movement..Sorry to crush your rant on "REPUBLICANS EVIL EMPIRE!"
How does that undo anything I said? Someone in Hillary's campaign (who hopefully got fired- note Hillary herself didn't say it)- in the campaign's poorest move- floating the idea, then very rapidly dropped it and distanced themself from it. Note how it was also floated during McCain's campaign, by his rival republicans, that his birthplace of Panama might disqualify him- and that was also dropped, for similar reasons (i.e. it was dumbass).
The Republicans then picked up and ran with it for the next 8 years, used it in political campaigns, and had over 40% of their people believe it at it's height, far above it's popularity among independents.
Note also how even the birther movement is just one part of the post. The historical levels of obstructionism isn't simply inferred from that, but rather comes from direct data on filibusters, and on routine measures that never got blocked in the past being opposed for the sake of obstructionism. Objectively measurable things, in short.
This is one problem with some objections I see, the assumption that instant-equalization can be reached simply by finding something vaguely similar on the other side. If there's evidence of something one group is doing far more, then mentioning the other side doing it a little doesn't erase how much they did it. Being able to find a little bit of dirt isn't a blank check. Both sides can do something wrong, and in those cases, one can still judge on who one feels is doing better/worse in that area.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you think he has the desire or intention to weaken America?
Well, let's see, he lets millions of criminals stay here (many of whom are probably ISIS sleeper agents) while still not bothering to beef up border patrol which allows many more to keep coming in illegally. He removes loyal senior military officials in top positions for no justifiable reason and replaces them with inexperienced people who probably have no real loyalty to America. He significantly cuts back our military and its training (we now only have TWO combat ready brigades in the army for instance). He weakens the morale of the people in our armed forces. He refuses to strengthened our nation's outdated power grid from an EMP attack which would severely cripple us if it ever happened. He promotes racial instability with all of his and his liberal media's racial baiting tactics which also has led to our police officers being afraid to dotheir jobs properly so they can no longer protect us as well as they used to.... etc, etc, etc, etc,....
I could go on and on all night but of course you'll just handwave it all away as no big deal or just outright accuse me of lying. Hundreds of thousands of foreign troops are training right here our own soil. Which is a treasonous act. Jade Helm is a cover for what Obama is planning.Just read the article I linked to on the first page near bottom FFS to see what I"m talking about regarding him weakening America. It lists several of them I listed above. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together and see where all of this is headed. Libs don't care though as long as they keep getting welfare and food stamps Obama can do no wrong in their eyes so they don't want to even question his intentions. He constantly disregards the Constitution? Meh, they don't care. It's nothing more than a piece of paper to them with no real value or authority. They want their food stamps.
So yeah, in conclusion, he most certainly is doing his darndest to weaken America. Any idiot should be able to see that. Are all people in Germany as blind or dumb as you are? If so, I feel sorry for your country.
Originally posted by Star428
Well, let's see, he lets millions of criminals stay here (many of whom are probably ISIS sleeper agents) while still not bothering to beef up border patrol which allows many more to keep coming in illegally. He removes loyal senior military officials in top positions for no justifiable reason and replaces them with inexperienced people who probably have no real loyalty to America. He significantly cuts back our military and its training (we now only have TWO combat ready brigades in the army for instance). He weakens the morale of the people in our armed forces. He refuses to strengthened our nation's outdated power grid from an EMP attack which would severely cripple us if it ever happened. He promotes racial instability with all of his and his liberal media's racial baiting tactics which also has led to our police officers being afraid to dotheir jobs properly so they can no longer protect us as well as they used to.... etc, etc, etc, etc,....I could go on and on all night but of course you'll just handwave it all away as no big deal or just outright accuse me of lying. Hundreds of thousands of foreign troops are training right here our own soil. Which is a treasonous act. Jade Helm is a cover for what Obama is planning.Just read the article I linked to on the first page near bottom FFS to see what I"m talking about regarding him weakening America. It lists several of them I listed above. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together and see where all of this is headed. Libs don't care though as long as they keep getting welfare and food stamps Obama can do no wrong in their eyes so they don't want to even question his intentions. He constantly disregards the Constitution? Meh, they don't care. It's nothing more than a piece of paper to them with no real value or authority. They want their food stamps.
So yeah, in conclusion, he most certainly is doing his darndest to weaken America. Any idiot should be able to see that. Are all people in Germany as blind or dumb as you are? If so, I feel sorry for your country.
Oh yeah, I left out a very important one. He also weakens us by making friends and bad deals with our longtime enemies (Iran and Cuba) while turning his back on our longtime allies (Israel); he also does it when he gives up 4 or 5 terrorists for 1 traitor.
LOL. Apparently you missed my post where I said that a person appointed as Secretary of the Army who is gay concerns me when you take into account what else Obama has done. Gay people have low morals as I've already mentioned. I don't want someone like that in charge of our army because any oath he took to protect the American people probably means very little to someone like him.
So his homosexuality makes him ineffective at holding the position how? You say that gays have 'low morals', tossing out a blanket statement with nothing to back it up. You must be new at how this whole argument thing works. If you want to make a point, you need evidence to support it. I'm honestly amazed that this thread is still open, but this place is one of the darker corners of the internet at times.
"Blatant display of homophobia". LMAO. You must have me confused with someone else, mr.moderator. I don't fear gays. True, I don't like them but fear them? LOL. I fear them about as much as I fear you or anybody else on this biased libtard forum which is pathetically very little. 👆
But hey, keep lying to yourself if ya like. Won't make a damn bit of difference to me. 🙂
