Darth Revan & Darth Malak vs The Emperor's Wrath and Darth Nox

Originally posted by SunRazer
So team 2 wins even when both of team 1 benefit from the Star Forge nexus and have the juicy Jedi chicken wings to feed off? That sounds like a stretch.

Why?

We know already, that Revan was capable of overcoming Darth Malak when the latter was capable of feeding on "Jedi Chicken wings". And this was probably a light side Revan (as far as I recall the events seen as "canon"😉, meaning that he didn't run around and slaughter all the Jedi once the first was drained - which would probably be an option for both Nox and the Wrath.

And even if they wouldn't make that choice: We still have Revan beating Malak who used all the Jedi present to amp himself. Now you toss in two opponents who are more powerful than Malak / Revan (and probably have a larger skill gap between them and the KotoR Sith duo than there was between Revan and Malak) and devide the Jedi, that can be drained, to two people, giving each of them half the "amp" Malak had.

So why should one expect a different outcome in comparison to one of them using the "amp" exactly? Which is already assuming that neither Nox nor the Wrath simply kills those Jedi before they can be "used".

@ares834

Unless Darth Revan's power more than quadrupled by the time of SoR. I see no way in hell that team 2 wins.

It probably has - and maybe even more than that.
Revan by the time of SoR had centuries of time spent in a "prison" while being directly connected to Vitiate. It can only be speculated what kind of knowledge he could have gained from the Emperor's mind, but it is probably considerable.

I mean, seriously: At the end of SoR, it - as far as canon is concerned - takes all the games protagonists (which means: all player characters, or 8 of the most powerful / skillful beings in the galaxy) plus an assortment of heavy hitters (with Satele Shan and Darth Marr among them) to take Revan out. And even then, it's a rather hard fight. I very much doubt that Novel!Revan could even remotely take on that assembled team.

Kek @ Nox > Revan.

Also, you do realise a Light Sided Revan can destroy the consoles keeping the Jedi alive, and gain Light Side Points right?

Nah. They still die.

Originally posted by Selenial
Kek @ Nox > Revan.

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with the audience here. You may want to remind me what KotoR!Revan has accomplished to put him on par / above Nox.

Also, you do realise a Light Sided Revan can destroy the consoles keeping the Jedi alive, and gain Light Side Points right?

I have probably realized that, when I last played KotoR - more than a decade ago. Didn't remember it, though.

Probably because no-one ever actually uses destroy droid or whatever.

Any targeted light side power would work. I'm a fan of breach when I randomly decide to play KotOR.

"Unless Darth Revan's power more than quadrupled by the time of SoR. I see no way in hell that team 2 wins."

Agree with Nai... But is not just a question of raw power....

You see there is more power sith artifact than the Mur amulettes, and look what the amulette did... Darth Revan had far more diverse and usefull arsenal, and a clearly better intellect....
And his arsenal reach some hilarous level of insanity... If you convert in raw power, Darth Revan become clearly the most O.P star wars character ever created...
This arsenal is lost for later version... Revan 3.0 best Revan ever, yhea that was good before windows update came...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Any targeted light side power would work. I'm a fan of breach when I randomly decide to play KotOR.

With his mastery of TK, sub molecular level powers (not only TK) + sith sorcery. + Ultra advanced telepathy (Revan rarely brainwash, he sneakly penetrate the mind of his foes guided him distracting him.. He can cause his foes to disable their buble shield...)
+ Debuff like Malak...
+ No Mana.
Revan just wreck....

But can you just English? Seriously.

Originally posted by Nai
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with the audience here. You may want to remind me what KotoR!Revan has accomplished to put him on par / above Nox.

I mean I could ask the opposite question of you. To be honest it's not in my interest to bother, since I know Ant's going to be so mad at the prospect of Nox > Revan that he'll respond himself. But sufficed to say I disagree.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ant, do you think Team 1 wins with the SF amp or without it?

Unless Darth Revan's power more than quadrupled by the time of SoR. I see no way in hell that team 2 wins.

Originally posted by Nai
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with the audience here. You may want to remind me what KotoR!Revan has accomplished to put him on par / above Nox.

>being the most powerful Jedi alive during the "prime of the Jedi".
>defeated two Terentatek solo at the same time on a Korriban.
>slaughtering through Korriban's Sith Academy + it's headmasters.
>slaughtering through a 1,000 Rakata and rancors with companions.
>slaughtering through armies of Dark Jedi on the Star Forge for an hour.
>defeated amped!Bastila Shan who is said near Dooku and Kenobi.
>defeating an uber-amped Malak who was said to be nearly unstoppable.
>incredible pain tolerance, mental resistance, and endurance feats.
>he's ****ing revan.

etc. etc. 😬

I'll have to make a new thread, then.

>slaughtering through armies of Dark Jedi on the Star Forge for an hour.

With a mere portion of his power. Can I remind you that in my opinion all KotOR Revan feat come from the progressive rediscovery of Darth Revan power....

+Malak knew that this weaken Revan could smash through the army of sith troopers droïds and sith accolytes/Dark Jedi....

What he did not knew is that Revan would not be even tired after this...

And here we are talking about mother****ing DARTH Revan..... the full power Revan.... +Revan have incredible healing factors....

Nox have slightly more raw power than DARTH Revan, but Darth Revan is the most dangerous one.... more sith knowledge more sith etchniques, better at Kagath, And Nox insane power, just serve him to hurt himself... Because he is against Revan....

The fight was still balance, because it was Malak and not Malgus..

But still Darth Revan = Doctor Doom.... I just cannot imagine if you warp Revan before malak betrayal in some crazy comic universe, or even warhammer 40 000 how insaly powerfull he would become, marvel and DC have a lot of insane artifact that Revan could use, including some green lantern ring red yellow etc etc..

Warhammer 40 000 os full of insane psychis energy it is in my opinion a world ruled by tzeench er humhum creed, so Revan scheming abilities wilml be noticed. there is a lot of dangerous knowledge there is 3 big Trayus academmy down there... And the last thing you want if you fight Revan is that he gain knowledge....
Puting Revan in a library is like putting goku in a food store....

Ha yhea end H.S I'd like so much to make some cross-over...

We know you love Revan, but you don't need to make yourself so transparently biased.

STill my opinions are here... And I share them with Jensaarai himself...