Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Your lack of awareness at just how unconnected from the word steamrolls, which has been around for about a century now, you are is the point, I think.
I meant in here not the real world. Of course steamroll has been a term for a long time. It's like the term pancake. I personally haven't seen anyone use it in Star Wars debates although its obviously a term in the real world.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA
Not really warranted, tbh.
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
I meant in here not the real world. Of course steamroll has been a term for a long time. It's like the term pancake. I personally haven't seen anyone use it in Star Wars debates although its obviously a term in the real world.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I do not understand
That was pretty obvious. You can find the answer here:
Originally posted by Raptor22
im pretty sure he was just attempting a bit of light humor.
Back on topic:
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Anakin's a ****ing monster tank. Revan's not TK ragdolling him or anything of the like. If he does, it's just going to piss off Anakin more.Revan's going to have to use a lot of his vast resources and knowledge on the Force to take down Anakin (more than just TK in my opinion).
Pardon me. Last time I checked, Dooku was "ragdolling" Anakin rather nicely short time before RotS. In the Force, Anakin is just on par with Kenobi unless he's going into "zone"-mode. So I really don't see him going up against Revan, who kept an assortment of the Galaxy's most powerful individuals at bay on his own. The only place where Anakin probably has a chance of overcoming SoR Revan would be a lightsaber only fight. And even there, Revan would probably take 5 out of 10 fights - perhabs even more.
And just for the fun:
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Is it just me or has everybody started using the term I've come up with? Not saying that other people can't come up with it. Evannova has used it. I've just started to notice it's popularity since I "introduced" it. I tried to type that without sounding arrogant but honestly, what do I know?
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
And the notion of you "introducing" the term anywhere is one of the most hilarious acts of self-praise I've seen so far.
Originally posted by NaiPardon me. Last time I checked, Dooku was "ragdolling" Anakin rather nicely short time before RotS.
Do you mean this fight:
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With the exception of the FL Blast I'm not sure I'd call any of that "ragdolling" tbh.
Was giving Dooku the definitive edge for sure. But aside from the FL Blast there was nothing that was stopping Skywalker. And nothing Skywalker couldn't recover from in short enough time to continue his Attack.
Originally posted by Nai
In the Force, Anakin is just on par with Kenobi unless he's going into "zone"-mode.
I think you mean in TK, because in the "Force", Skywalker is clearly more powerful than Kenobi.
Still I'd disagree simply because Dooku never laid the kind of TK Smackdown on Skywalker that he did on Kenobi Twice in ROTS. Again Only with the FL Blast did he get floored/subdued the way Kenobi does.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
With the exception of the FL Blast I'm not sure I'd call any of that "ragdolling" tbh.
I was talking precisely about that "exception".
Was giving Dooku the definitive edge for sure. But aside from the FL Blast there was nothing that was stopping Skywalker. And nothing Skywalker couldn't recover from in short enough time to continue his Attack.
Dooku is not even remotely close to SoR Revan in terms of power. There is a reason why they shipped the most powerful representatives of Empire and Republic to Yavin 4 in order to take him down.
I think you mean in TK, because in the "Force", Skywalker is clearly more powerful than Kenobi.Still I'd disagree simply because Dooku never laid the kind of TK Smackdown on Skywalker that he did on Kenobi Twice in ROTS. Again Only with the FL Blast did he get floored/subdued the way Kenobi does.
Dooku never really attempted to lay the kind of TK smackdown on Skywalker. Whether that means he couldn't do it can be argued. I don't see much from Anakin to actually hinder Dooku from doing so.
But, as I already mentioned: SoR Revan is an entirely different story.
Originally posted by Nai
I was talking precisely about that "exception".
Well those kind of shots will be rare considering Skywalker can block FL with his Saber.
Originally posted by NaiDooku never really attempted to lay the kind of TK smackdown on Skywalker. Whether that means he couldn't do it can be argued. I don't see much from Anakin to actually hinder Dooku from doing so.
Well I'd personally argue it. Given how many times they've fought and given his Force pushes on Skywalker, in that above video, didn't have the kind of effect as the first Force push Dooku lays on Kenobi in ROTS.
And because feats are not everything. Power scaling needs to be considered as well.
The last time Dooku's force push had that kind of effect on Skywalker was back in TCW Movie. So a few years before ROTS.
Originally posted by McP
Anakin kills him the same way he killed Revan's equal, Count Dooku.
evan = Dooku power 10...
Dooku is a linear fighter. He is just good at frontal assault and placement....
Revan is like sidious, good on every side..... Back and flank, he is fast dynamic cunning and precise.
Except her that we are dealing with SoR Revan, just a force power spamer....
I Really hate SoR Revan... I'd really like people stop using him.. or strat using him as a weaker version of Darth Revan...
Because he is a lame character and do not even represent Revan full potential.. revan full power force sure, but not Revan best in term of fighting abilities...
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well those kind of shots will be rare considering Skywalker can block FL with his Saber.
As he did in that very particular situation?
Well I'd personally argue it. Given how many times they've fought and given his Force pushes on Skywalker, in that above video, didn't have the kind of effect as the first Force push Dooku lays on Kenobi in ROTS.
Well. When Kenobi is prepared for the attack, he is very well capable of blocking a part of Dooku's TK that floors lesser beings. But I don't know what Anakin would do, if Dooku would utilize a force grip against him to throw him through the room.
And because feats are not everything. Power scaling needs to be considered as well.The last time Dooku's force push had that kind of effect on Skywalker was back in TCW Movie. So a few years before ROTS.
That may all be very true. Point still remains: SoR Revan is by far more powerful than Dooku. You may credit that to some sort of SW:TOR caused hype of the character. But somebody who needs the assembled might of the greatest heroes the Empire and Republic have to offer, in order to be defeated, would most likely destroy somebody like Anakin.
Originally posted by Nai
Pardon me. Last time I checked, Dooku was "ragdolling" Anakin rather nicely short time before RotS.
There's a reason why in the ROTS novel, they say Anakin is the most powerful Jedi of the order nearly a half-dozen times.
In the Force, Anakin is just on par with Kenobi unless he's going into "zone"-mode.
So I really don't see him going up against Revan, who kept an assortment of the Galaxy's most powerful individuals at bay on his own.
The only place where Anakin probably has a chance of overcoming SoR Revan would be a lightsaber only fight. And even there, Revan would probably take 5 out of 10 fights - perhabs even more.
Well, if Revan uses his mental Sever Force / Don Moch ability in a duel with Anakin it's possible he can win (given how we saw it temporarily gave Dooku the advantage until Palpatine urged Anakin to fight unrestrained).
If not, I don't see Revan beating the guy who was causing Dooku to age a decade after every strike of a blade and moved at times faster than the Count could perceive in pure lightsaber combat.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You mean "before" he grew "vastly in powerful?" 😬
That happened over the course of weeks? And he grew "vastly in powerful"? Maybe you want to make up quotes correctly. 😉
There's a reason why in the ROTS novel, they say Anakin is the most powerful Jedi of the order nearly a half-dozen times.
There is also a reason why George Lucas said that you needed to be Yoda or Mace to challenge Sidious, when asked, if Anakin could have taken the Emperor. He's not in their league, yet. And just because Mace Windu states that Anakin is probably the most powerful Jedi, that doesn't mean that he is. He most certainly is not when it comes to force control and lightsaber mastery.
That's pretty ridiculous. Anakin was hindered in his fight against Kenobi, and Lucas has even stated that Anakin is more powerful. 😬
Yes. The same Lucas who put Anakin below Mace, Yoda and Sidious. Which is - coincidentally - the league that SoR Revan plays in. If we just consider feats, he even outclasses the PT era trio.
For what it's worth, he would have won both times that fought him if not for the intervention of his spirit.
English...do you type it?
Well, if Revan uses his mental Sever Force / Don Moch ability in a duel with Anakin it's possible he can win (given how we saw it temporarily gave Dooku the advantage until Palpatine urged Anakin to fight unrestrained).
Revan totally outclasses RotS Anakin in terms of demonstrated Force abilities and is probably on par with him, when it comes to sabers. And taunting Anakin was the reason why Dooku actually lost the fight, as it tempted Anakin to go into "z0ne"-mode.
If not, I don't see Revan beating the guy who was causing Dooku to age a decade after every strike of a blade and moved at times faster than the Count could perceive in pure lightsaber combat.
Have you still not grasped the fact, that one shouldn't take obvious hyperboles literally? I didn't see a 2000 year old Dooku in RotS. Not to mention, that you are making things up again. That desperate? Pathetic.