Mangog vs World Breaker Hulk

Started by celeyhyga179 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that really so? I've never seen Thor having trouble with asgardian mountain or something.

Asgardians are supposed to be three times denser than humans. I've never find a scan which shows all Asgardian materials are more sturdy though.


Originally posted by Magnon
The avalanche thing, for example, happened in Mighty Thor 355 (or 354, not sure since I got the finnish translation). He got hit by it, and almost died. He wouldn't budge vs. an Earth-based avalanche, I would think.

In the X-Men Asgard trilogy, Douglas Ramsey (Cypher) was given a regular Asgardian sword, and couldn't lift it because it was way too heavy.

Lots of more examples, but the point is: it is not just the Aesir themselves who are heavier, stronger and more durable than Earthlings... everything in Asgard is.


Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Would appreciate a scan of any such instance.

Four Vikings needed just to lift Jarnbjorn

Grizzly who has super strength has trouble with Asgardian doors.

Takes three of the Thunderbolts(two of which have enhanced strength) just to open the chest holding Gungnir.

The weight of those mountains was given and though weapons and asgardian made things might be more heavy this doesn't mean that the terrain is.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
The weight of those mountains was given and though weapons and asgardian made things might be more heavy this doesn't mean that the terrain is.

Ok..

But in regards to "Asgardian made things", where do you suppose they obtain such building materials?
Maybe from their surroundings? From the terrain maybe?

🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master

The beat down by Mangog, and the feat, taxed Odin.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=617928&pagenumber=4


The narrator, pins it on Odin moving Asgard to another universe. (the feat)
Thor, seconds that by stating a "recent mighty effort" ...
Odin tells us it's ... "This battle" ... (meaning Mangog ... but the 'feat' is part of the battle, so that too)

Regardless, either way, the feat happened after Mangog stomped Odin and Asgard combined.

Therefore, Odin was in optimal conditions until he attacked Mangog
with a stellar-nova scale blast while simultaneously moving Asgard to another universe.

I posted those scans already friend.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

But in regards to "Asgardian made things", where do you suppose they obtain such building materials?
Maybe from their surroundings? From the terrain maybe?

Good point.

Although we should highlight, that it was not a mountain range, or mountains, ... it was the top of a mountain:

It just happened to be millionS of tonS.

Regarding a mountain range, Mangog decimated one with a single hammer fist blow.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok..

But in regards to "Asgardian made things", where do you suppose they obtain such building materials?
Maybe from their surroundings? From the terrain maybe?

🙁


Metal like Uru. Asgardian weapons are most likely enchanted and heavier because of the metals used and the process of making, like Mjolnir. The same is true for a door which was huge on top of that.

The weight of the mountain was given, we don't need to speculate. The idea that asgardian mountains are heavier is lulzworthy ridiculous and unnecessary as we know already how heavy it is. What do you hope to achive? Do you think it's as heavy as a planet? By no stretch of imagination is this impressive, maybe for a high meta.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Metal like Uru. Asgardian weapons are most likely enchanted and heavier because of the metals used and the process of making, like Mjolnir. The same is true for a door which was huge on top of that.

The weight of the mountain was given, we don't need to speculate. The idea that asgardian mountains are heavier is lulzworthy ridiculous and unnecessary as we know already how heavy it is. What do you hope to achive? Do you think it's as heavy as a planet? By no stretch of imagination is this impressive, maybe for a high meta.


I guess u missed the part where i agreed about the weight of the mountain.

The scans were to address the other point of "Asgardian stuffs" tend to weigh heavier than earthly or "Midgardian stuffs". All signs point to it.
The size of the does not really matter since Grizzly made a point of letting his squad know that Asgardian stuff are surprisingly heavy. Also of note is he has superhuman strength. The stone slab alone that was the cover for the chest needed 3 people to open. Two of them have enhanced strength.

This is the best thread ever created.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess u missed the part where i agreed about the weight of the mountain.

The scans were to address the other point of "Asgardian stuffs" tend to weigh heavier than earthly or "Midgardian stuffs". All signs point to it.
The size of the does not really matter since Grizzly made a point of letting his squad know that Asgardian stuff are surprisingly heavy. Also of note is he has superhuman strength. The stone slab alone that was the cover for the chest needed 3 people to open. Two of them have enhanced strength.

Seems i missed it but it's still pointless if asgardian stuff is heavier isn't it? The mountain feat is so unimpressive that this whole discussion becomes a ridiculous derailing of the fight.

Savage Hulk supported a 150 billions ton mountain and WBH is arguably 100 times stronger.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Savage Hulk supported a 150 billions ton mountain and WBH is arguably 100 times stronger.

Almost all of the weight of that Secret Wars mountain was supported by the ground, not by Hulk himself, as clearly stated in the comic. And even then Hulk was rapidly reaching his limits.

Mangog, on the other hand, never displayed any strain.

Originally posted by Magnon
Almost all of the weight of that Secret Wars mountain was supported by the ground, not by Hulk himself, as clearly stated in the comic. And even then Hulk was rapidly reaching his limits.

Mangog, on the other hand, never displayed any strain.

Mangog had to deal with just some millions tons, Hulk especially WBH could replicate this Mangog nonfeat with a smile.

Originally posted by Stoic
His more recent confrontation with Thor, and the Hulk's ability to withstand the might of being capable of hitting with the force of over 100 Herc's of power may give some people the idea that WB Hulk has every right to be in this situation. He was also at a far lower level when he took the hit than when he was in the Dark Dimension. Mangog is certainly troublesome for Odin, but he isn't Odin, and he does not have Odin's abilities. making it seem like we are placing WB Hulk up against Odin is an incorrect way of looking at this.

um,u do realize that the 'herc' wasnt talking about hercules himself right?,it was a measure of the wishing power they had,the more hercs,the more powerful your wish...it wasnt reffering to the power of hercules.
Odin's pgtsical and energy powers far eclipse wbh,that is where i am coming from,its like taking zod and putting him up against luke cage

Originally posted by Genii96
um,u do realize that the 'herc' wasnt talking about hercules himself right?,it was a measure of the wishing power they had,the more hercs,the more powerful your wish...it wasnt reffering to the power of hercules.
Odin's pgtsical and energy powers far eclipse wbh,that is where i am coming from,its like taking zod and putting him up against luke cage

A citation would be much appreciated as proof to your claim about the meaning of the Herc scale. I read differently.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Good point.

Although we should highlight, that it was not a mountain range, or mountains, ... it was the top of a mountain:

It just happened to be millionS of tonS.

Regarding a mountain range, Mangog decimated one with a single hammer fist blow.

what issue did Mangog decimate a mountain with a single blow?

Master, these points you are making are actually moot. He are talking about astronomical difference in magnitude. Hulk decimated an entire planet with thousands of super beings WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM. This proves he can decimated something a billion times more with a single punch. A mountain is just a speck of dust to a planet and a planet is just a speck of dust to a billion planets.

Originally posted by Genii96
um,u do realize that the 'herc' wasnt talking about hercules himself right?,it was a measure of the wishing power they had,the more hercs,the more powerful your wish...it wasnt reffering to the power of hercules.
Odin's pgtsical and energy powers far eclipse wbh,that is where i am coming from,its like taking zod and putting him up against luke cage

Dude. Don't make things up. The Hercs power was measured by Hercules putting his full power into an attack. Everything. It's the full power of Hercules. Hulk lung chewed on 133 of that power. Hulk one shot koed someone who was 17.5 Hercs and melted someone with the backlash of power that was 17.5 Hercs. If you say what I am saying isn't true and deny this, I will post a scan making you look crazy.

Originally posted by carver9
Dude. Don't make things up. The Hercs power was measured by Hercules putting his full power into an attack. Everything. It's the full power of Hercules. Hulk lung chewed on 133 of that power. Hulk one shot koed someone who was 17.5 Hercs and melted someone with the backlash of power that was 17.5 Hercs. If you say what I am saying isn't true and deny this, I will post a scan making you look crazy.

Hey Bro, can you post the scan pls^^.

Originally posted by carver9
Dude. Don't make things up. The Hercs power was measured by Hercules putting his full power into an attack. Everything. It's the full power of Hercules. Hulk lung chewed on 133 of that power. Hulk one shot koed someone who was 17.5 Hercs and melted someone with the backlash of power that was 17.5 Hercs. If you say what I am saying isn't true and deny this, I will post a scan making you look crazy.

really?,please post it,i am pretty sure i saw the scan of 'hercs' being measured as wishing power, fing fang foom had about 7 hercs,so they couldnt wish him away, post the scan so i can clarify it.

Oh my god. Where do you all be getting your info from. GOD!!!

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627a.jpg

[url]http://i1125.ph

Also, Fing Fang had 17.34 Herc of power.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901492/Incredible_Hulks_635_010.jpg.html

So one Herc is Hercules strongest blow? How many blows can Herc throw like this?