Charitable Giving by Corporations

Someone said here corporations are too greedy don't give to the poor or needy.

What on earth is this then?

http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/topfunders/top50giving.html

corporations are machines that are made to make money

they give money to charity if a) it's a PR thing, and someone convinced them that it would be good for business in the long run, or b) they have humans in high places within that corporation that believe in a specific type of charity and decide to use their sway in said corporation to divert corporate money to said charity, rather than deriving the funds from their own personal account, as that would typically require more of an actual sacrifice.

edit - in related news:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2014/07/09/the-coming-end-of-corporate-charity-and-how-companies-should-prepare/

For some reason the link does not work.

dunno... works for me.

ok now its working.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Someone said here corporations are too greedy don't give to the poor or needy.

Can you point out who said that so we can read about the context?

In a thread about the pope, I talked about how hypocritical republicans are for denouncing the pope as an anti-capitalist villain because he spoke out against income equality and corporate greed. I stated that people shouldn't have money to hoarde when there are people starving. He responded talking about charities and such, but at that point I was more invested in the Clock Kid thread and didn't respond. Then, in the Clock Kid thread, when I was pointing out his confirmation bias and absence of proof, he kept repeatedly trying to bring this topic up to deflect from the fact that he had no retort and was ignoring evidence, pretty much trying to childishly use ad hominem attacks to cover up his willful lack of logic regarding the Clock Kid incident.

So I think this thread is just a bait thread for me. But I don't take the bait of emotionally immature (and insecure 😉 ) little guys, although I am definitely amused. So I'll sit this one out, until he learns to debate properly without resorting to ad hominem attacks, topic shifting, or willful ignorance of evidence.

I stated that people shouldn't have money to hoarde when there are people starving.

Again, you have a childish understanding of republicans and democrats. "Republicans are greedy while democrats just want to help people" isn't just asinine, it's ignorant.

Furthermore, you're not a dictator of people's funds. To state I shouldn't have money to horde if I have say a million dollars, is idiotic. You'd make a fine dictator. You can just take everyone's funds and allocate them, like a true Stalin 🙂

I don't think you are amused. Judging by your posts, you don't really understand what's going on in the political spectrum and only want to add your *republicans suck democrats rule" two cents in.

Well a lot of corporations are greedy. Is every single one on Earth greedy? Probably not. How do you tell which are which? Well, probably the ones that give to charity on the sly and don't make a big thing about it.

I'm not talking about forcing people to give up their funds. I'm talking about people having the internal empathy to not self indulge while knowing others are suffering, because a lack of such causes the selfishness, xenophobia, and tribalism that has led to pretty much all anthropogenic world problems.

It's an idealistic humanitarian concept, but it's alternative requires a sociopathic disregard for ones fellow man. As I stated in the other thread, a privatized health care system where material wealth determines who lives or dies is outright inhumane, especially when the money is just going towards a CEO's swimming pool. It's like that South Park episode in which the musicians were complaining piracy was preventing them from buying a new yacht, but unlike that episode, horrifyingly, we are talking about people's lives that are being monetized.

Well there is self indulgence and then SELF INDULGENCE. For instance there is a $1,000 ice cream out there with flakes of gold in it.

I'm not talking about forcing people to give up their funds. I'm talking about people having the internal empathy to not self indulge while knowing others are suffering, because a lack of such causes the selfishness, xenophobia, and tribalism that has led to pretty much all anthropogenic world problems.

The healthcare situation I used is a good example.

And I admitted it's an idealistic humanitarian concept.

What's wrong with privatized health care if you have an addition for low income families and basic healthcare needs?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Someone said here corporations are too greedy don't give to the poor or needy.

What on earth is this then?

http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/topfunders/top50giving.html

Of course if you dig deeper you find that most the charities those companies are donating to are charities they themselves setup. So they pay their own not for profit tax exempt charity to get tax breaks. Of course these charities are doing good works but the greed is still there and still pretty prevalent in how those organizations work.

They are also still making record profits while the gap between the rich and poor continue to widen.

So the money they give means nothing and it's not their money to keep😂

Right😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So he money they give means nothing and it's not their money to keep😂

Right😂

Tax exemptions and stuff like that.

I also mentioned that there are people who legitimately benefit from these charities.

But don't pretend this somehow negates what people are saying. The corporations are still making record profits. And the gap between the rich and poor continue to rise at levels that frankly should be unsettling to people. Of course there are some corporations that are better than others.

You imply a lot with your posts and you know you do, then when I see it and call it out you always claim "not what I said."

Unless a corporation is breaking laws by operating a non profit for money. They are allowed to make profit.

That's our system.

Is this not a system that could be conceivably challenged, though? No-one is accusing (in this particular case) companies of not following the rules, merely that there is a wider perspective and hence the potential for rules change.

What system is better then what we have now?

Capitalism creates competition and ingenuity of the people.

If you take that away, what will happen to our future of greater concepts and ideas then what we have now. If you take away for profit you take away drive to do your best.