Why is the theory of evolution considered a threat by certain Christians?

obvious troll thread on the topic was understandably closed, but it did generate a lot of heated discussion on this topic...so i thought this forum could do with a non-troll version of the thread.

to start, i've conversed with many christians who feel that the theory of evolution does not contradict their faith. they tend to ascribe this position to the belief that certain passages were metaphorical in nature. for example the notion that the earth was not actually created in 6 days, nor that "created in his own image" actually meant that god has a human face, arms, legs, penis, etc.

on the opposite side i see a group of people who seem to shun scientific theory in general, seemingly to protect their spirituality. these are the people i mostly want to hear from. to them i ask the question:

what threat would a universal acceptance of evolution pose for christianity, and how do you feel it goes against the teachings/ethics/morality of the new testament?

*Yawn*... Poor attempt at trolling. Surely you can do better that, atheist.

I'll point out how most of the Christians in the world believe in evolution, it's more some narrower groups that have an issue with it.

Originally posted by Star428
*Yawn*... Poor attempt at trolling. Surely you can do better that, atheist.

perhaps we can get an opinion from someone who is not obviously devoted to
thread derailment.

I don't think there is any particular problem with evolution, since the core beliefs of christianhood are about leading a sensible and generous life, with has very little to do which historical genetics.

Originally posted by Q99
I'll point out how most of the Christians in the world believe in evolution, it's more some narrower groups that have an issue with it.

Exactly. Looks like another troll thread from the liberal version of TI. Good show, go ahead and close this thread Ush.

perhaps we can get an opinion from someone who is not obviously devoted to
thread derailment.

then report the thread instead of backseat mod trolling.

i'm sure ush can handle his moderating duties quite adequately without your guidance, psmith.

Originally posted by Q99
I'll point out how most of the Christians in the world believe in evolution, it's more some narrower groups that have an issue with it.

point taken. did the thread come off as a sweeping generalization or were you just raising the point for all to consider?

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't think there is any particular problem with evolution, since the core beliefs of christianhood are about leading a sensible and generous life, with has very little to do which historical genetics.

The "problem" we have is that it's lies from the devil, Bentley, as I showed in the other thread which was closed because a certain atheist didn't like the facts I presented. I'm not about to repost everything I posted before to the troll who made this thread and is clearly just trying to get a rise out of believers. If anyone feels "threatened" it's atheists because they want to keep deluding themselves into thinking there is no God watching everything they do and so they don't have to worry about being judged by a supreme being on Judgement Day. Regardless, I"m not going to engage the troll who made this thread or any other atheists who come in here and sling around insults like "retard" at people who disagree with their ignorant atheistic views.

then report the thread instead of backseat mod trolling.

i'm sure ush can handle his moderating duties quite adequately without your guidance, psmith.

Originally posted by Star428
The "problem" we have is that it's lies from the devil,

See, I object to this line of thought- in that, one, the Bible never says the Devil goes around lying about the nature of things, which is *pretty* important and you think would be brought up in devil-avoiding tips, and two, it also requires the Devil having access to the entirety of the Earth to alter pretty much as he wants, and I'm pretty sure in the Bible, making and shaping the Earth was God's job, not the Devil's.

Is it really so hard to believe that God simply made a fantastically complex universe or what have you?

This hypothesis of yours is, at minimum, un-biblical in itself.

Originally posted by Q99
See, I object to this line of thought- in that, one, the Bible never says the Devil goes around lying about the nature of things, which is *pretty* important and you think would be brought up in devil-avoiding tips, and two, it also requires the Devil having access to the entirety of the Earth to alter pretty much as he wants, and I'm pretty sure in the Bible, making and shaping the Earth was God's job, not the Devil's.

Is it really so hard to believe that God simply made a fantastically complex universe or what have you?

This hypothesis of yours is, at minimum, un-biblical in itself.

Originally posted by psmith81992
As you say, that's nice dear. Move along now 😂

you addressed me, so i responded. if you don't want me to address you, stop desperately vying for my attention.

yeah i know "blah blah emotional". you're very clever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Blaming the devil is a fanatasic way to avoid any and all accountability for any wrongdoing in the world as well. Devil made me do it. Hilarious.

It's also fairly un-biblical. The Bible talks about resisting sin and such, but doesn't talk about invisible devils everywhere or such.

The role of the Devil in the Bible is pretty darn minor.

He's not the serpent in Eden- that one was cursed to forever crawl on it's belly, obviously not something that applies to Satan.

In Job, he and God talk... conversationally.

Also? Doesn't rule hell. Hell's just a suck place for everyone, lake of fire (which doesn't eternally punish, it destroys). Bible does not give the Devil his own realm.

It's kinda a canon vs fanon thing. The fanon is big and popular, but it's not in the original text, or even the side-texts of the time (the Apocypha is basically EU material).

Also, just want to add that evolution is in direct contradiction to what the Bible teaches. I don't expect atheists to put much value on that since they ignorantly think it's a book of "fairy tales" but any person who calls himself a Christian should. I used to think that God created the universe and that He then just let it evolve naturally (not apes to humans though) but thankfully, I saw the light, after reading one of the articles I linked in the other thread. Now, I see that evolution is a complete utter lie. ALL OF IT.

BUt, I NEVER believed the nonsense that me or anyone in my family or my ancestors evolved from apes. LOL. I just don't see how anyone with a functioning brain in their head could ever believe such nonsense. Perhaps certain races evolved from apes but my ancestors originate from Adam and Eve. PERIOD.

Originally posted by Star428
Also, just want to add that evolution is in direct contradiction to what the Bible teaches.

care to elaborate and educate us on this point?

Originally posted by Q99
It's also fairly un-biblical. The Bible talks about resisting sin and such, but doesn't talk about invisible devils everywhere or such.

The role of the Devil in the Bible is pretty darn minor.

He's not the serpent in Eden- that one was cursed to forever crawl on it's belly, obviously not something that applies to Satan.

In Job, he and God talk... conversationally.

Also? Doesn't rule hell. Hell's just a suck place for everyone, lake of fire (which doesn't eternally punish, it destroys). Bible does not give the Devil his own realm.

It's kinda a canon vs fanon thing. The fanon is big and popular, but it's not in the original text, or even the side-texts of the time (the Apocypha is basically EU material).

Some Christians take the creationist story of the bible to be literal, others feel that even if the earth is not 6000 years old, their creator should still have a hand in it beyond just having started it off. Since they hold these beliefs, and want other people to hold these beliefs, Evolution, which goes against either of them, is seen as a threat.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Some Christians take the creationist story of the bible to be literal, others feel that even if the earth is not 6000 years old, their creator should still have a hand in it beyond just having started it off. Since they hold these beliefs, and want other people to hold these beliefs, Evolution, which goes against either of them, is seen as a threat.

but which passages in the bible led to the 6000 year conclusion? (addressed to all)

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but which passages in the bible led to the 6000 year conclusion? (addressed to all)

Well there have been multiple way that people have tried to calculate the age of the earth. A famous one by Bishop Ussher in the 18th century who used the following methods:

Early times (Creation to Solomon). Ostensibly the easiest period, as the Bible provides an unbroken male lineage from Adam through to Solomon complete with the ages of the individuals involved. However, not all of the versions of the Bible provide the same ages — the Septuagint gives much longer ages, adding about 1500 years to the date of Creation.[citation needed] Ussher resolved this problem by relying on the Hebrew Bible instead.
Early Age of Kings (Solomon to the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem and the Babylonian captivity). The lineage breaks down at this point, with only the length of the kings' reigns being provided and a number of overlaps and ambiguities complicating the picture. Ussher had to cross-reference the Biblical records with known dates of other people and rulers to create an overall timeline.
Late Age of Kings (Ezra and Nehemiah to the birth of Jesus). No information at all is provided in the Bible. Ussher and his counterparts therefore had to try to link a known event from this period with a dateable event in another culture, such as the Chaldeans, Persians or Romans. For instance, the death of the Chaldean King Nebuchadnezzar II (who conquered Jerusalem in 586 BC) could be correlated with the 37th year of the exile of Jehoiachin (2 Kings 25:27).

wow that's complicated. it's almost as if the authors of the bible considered it a non-issue.