Why is the theory of evolution considered a threat by certain Christians?

Started by Star42816 pages
Originally posted by Star428
Then I don't know what to tell u ,Bentley.. I can't help u if you're so set on thinking that not believing in divine creation is no big deal. THere's nothing to discuss here. We're done. God/Christ/THe Word created the universe. THat's not some minor insignificant detail to Christianity. It's HUGE. Anyone who believes in the lie of evolution has either been deceived or they are just stubborn and they will burn in Hell for denying that God created the universe.

Though I do agree that believing Christ is the Son of God, that He died for your sins, then was resurrected three days later, and that accepting Him as your personal savior is THE most important part of Christianity. BUT, that doesn't mean the rest of the Bible is insignificant. Especially not how it all began. That's an extremely important detail I'd say.

Originally posted by Robtard
It is fearful what a large number of people can accomplish and I'd hate to progress backwards where science is shat on in favor of someone's interpretation of an ancient book written by people long dead with less scientific understand.

eg Recently saw some televangelist recommend people with cancer not go to a hospital for treatment, but instead pray the cancer away. Imagine that kind of thinking as being canon.

I would like to see stats of creationists who are actually fearful of evolutionary theory. Right now it's a cute discussion. And yes, Star is one man.

Originally posted by Star428
Though I do agree that believing Christ is the Son of God, that He died for your sins, then was resurrected three days later, and that accepting Him as your personal savior is THE most important part of Christianity. BUT, that doesn't mean the rest of the Bible is insignificant. Especially not how it all began. That's an extremely important detail I'd say.

See this right here? This is why others fear the beliefs of these people. Notice what he said were the most important things from this book that is actually chalk full of a lot of good wisdom to go along with all the bad. What he said was the most important things are:

-Jesus was magic and died for us
-God created everything

Nope, it's not anything about treating others well..or any of the positive stuff that does indeed exist...it's about how powerful and awesome God and Jesus were.

I wouldn't group all Christians under Star's whacky beliefs, ffs, he gets a hardon over people he doesn't agree with being tortured and killed. He's about as far from Christ's teachings as one can get, imo.

Yeah but you can't tell me this is the first time you've heard a Christian talk about how people are going to burn in hell over stupid shit.

Originally posted by Star428
Fortunately, the true followers of Christ cannot be deceived no matter how hard Satan's agents try. Satan has already lost the fight when Christ died and then He was resurrected. 👆

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"- St. Matthew 24:24

So obviously, the true followers of Christ cannot be deceived.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah but you can't tell me this is the first time you've heard a Christian talk about how people are going to burn in hell over stupid shit.

Well no, there's definitely a group of people who have Star's anti Christ views of what Christianity is. It just seemed like you were grouping all Christians when there's a number who do not think that way.

One of my friends is a "live and let live" Christian who would never tell anyone they're going to hell for having different religious beliefs.

LOL. As was pointed out in one of the several articles I linked in the other thread, the fact that dinosaurs existed does not prove the theory of evolution is true.

I personally believe God's creation is so complex we are still learning new things about it today that we never would've even thought of before, that a book written by imperfect men is inherently flawed, and that flaunting piety as if it makes you better than everyone else kinda defeats the purpose of trying to be a good person.

So I am an advocate of intelligent design, I am a Christian who believes that man's interpretation of God will always be inherently flawed, and I view using one's religious or lack of religious beliefs to attack someone else as a dick move.

Star428, people like you make Christians look bad to the rest of the world, spread BS like "the Pope is the Anti-Christ," and create conflict between religious and nonreligious people. You are not doing Christianity or humanity any service with your actions here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah but you can't tell me this is the first time you've heard a Christian talk about how people are going to burn in hell over stupid shit.

while i have read/heard many passive aggressive revenge fantasies regarding hell, and have seen it historically committed (particularly in pre-renaissance art. yikes.) it's easy to argue that these are the attitudes of people who don't get the point of christianity, particularly the part about love and forgiveness.

Originally posted by Robtard

One of my friends is a "live and let live" Christian who would never tell anyone they're going to hell for having different religious beliefs.

Emperor: LOL. You still trolling me, huh? You really think I care what you or anyone else on this forum thinks about me or my beliefs? Seriously? You say you're "Christian" but I bet you're Catholic aren't you? Which would explain your trolling of me when I state true biblical things. You still upset that I told the truth about your so-called"leader", the pope in other thread?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

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Originally posted by psmith81992
I would like to see stats of creationists who are actually fearful of evolutionary theory. Right now it's a cute discussion. And yes, Star is one man.
there was that congressman (i think?) from one of the southern states who went on some rant about how evolution is a lie from the devil, who received applause from the christian crowd he was speaking to.

whether you want to call it "fear" or not is really sort of a petty semantic discussion imo. at the end of the day the point is that there is a large subsection of christians in the united states (and a growing number in europe and australia as well) who reject vast portions of modern science. whether these religious people consider modern science to be a threat to their religion is, to me, a less important question than whether we consider their dogmatic belief system to be a threat to science.

whether you want to call it "fear" or not is really sort of a petty semantic discussion imo. at the end of the day the point is that there is a large subsection of christians in the united states (and a growing number in europe and australia as well) who reject vast portions of modern science. whether these religious people consider modern science to be a threat to their religion is, to me, a less important question than whether we consider their dogmatic belief system to be a threat to science.

It's absolutely not semantic when the question is regarding fear of scientific theory from those who follow creationism. These things aren't mutually exclusive and we have no idea how many people truly fear evolutionary theory. It's nothing more than conjecture. I suspect the number of christians who either reject evolutionary theory or are intimidated by that is incredibly small in number.

perhaps then you can explain the gallup poll i cited earlier which demonstrates otherwise

and i just meant that to me, the question asked by the thread is not necessarily the most important question. whether they fear evolution or just reject it, i see that as the same fundamental problem for modern science.

Originally posted by red g jacks
perhaps then you can explain the gallup poll i cited earlier which demonstrates otherwise

No, it doesn't illustrate anything of the sort. What you are doing is called reaching.

huh...most would call that 'presenting evidence'.

Originally posted by psmith81992
No, it doesn't illustrate anything of the sort. What you are doing is called reaching.
how would you go about determining how common the rejection of evolutionary theory is for american christians?

Originally posted by Star428
[b]"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"- St. Matthew 24:24

So obviously, the true followers of Christ cannot be deceived. [/B]

If they can't be deceived please explain why they believe in a magical invisible man in the sky.