Originally posted by relentless1
Lokis got no answer to the combo of a Lightsaber and the Force, he MAY make it past Anakin but he gets stomped at the Ani/ Obi tag team for sure
The Jedi have an advantage in force in much the same way Loki has an advantage in much greater strength and durability. The Jedi's can use their force at range and Loki can use his scepter blasts and daggers at range. And while the force may seem like it has more applications and is harder to block/dodge, it also isn't lethal to Loki in the same way that his scepter and daggers are lethal to the jedis.
As for the light saber, I already mentioned that it will boil down to whether the light sabers can cut through Loki. He has more than enough durability feats for us to question the light saber's effectiveness. At the very least, it shouldn't cut through him as easily as it cuts through droids and other jedi. Loki's weapons however ARE lethal to the Jedis. Though I will concede that the Jedis are faster and far more agile and more likely to land the first hit.
Jedis and Sith have been seen taking down star destroyers and senate pods with ease through the Force, if that can be done Loki can be ragdolled easily.
As for Lokis durability he makes a comment to Thor in the first Avengers basically saying that the fall from the airship would kill an Asgardian. For beings that are supposed to be Gods thats pretty weak sauce if you ask me, Loki would get sliced by a lightsaber no problem.
Originally posted by relentless1
Jedis and Sith have been seen taking down star destroyers and senate pods with ease through the Force, if that can be done Loki can be ragdolled easily.As for Lokis durability he makes a comment to Thor in the first Avengers basically saying that the fall from the airship would kill an Asgardian. For beings that are supposed to be Gods thats pretty weak sauce if you ask me, Loki would get sliced by a lightsaber no problem.
He never said Thor would be killed by the fall. He says, "They believe us immortal. Let's put it to the test" or something like that. He wasn't sure what the fall would do.
Which movie did jedi's bring down a start destroyer with use of the force? If it was so darn strong why even bother with the light saber then? Why not ragdoll all the droids and stormtroopers with just force TK?
Originally posted by relentless1Are you serious ?
Jedis and Sith have been seen taking down star destroyers and senate pods with ease through the Force, if that can be done Loki can be ragdolled easily.As for Lokis durability he makes a comment to Thor in the first Avengers basically saying that the fall from the airship would kill an Asgardian. For beings that are supposed to be Gods thats pretty weak sauce if you ask me, Loki would get sliced by a lightsaber no problem.
no, they probably can't kill Loki with the Force but they can immobilize him for long enough to shish kebab him with a lightsaber.
"he wasn't sure what it would do" exactly, meaning he had reason to believe a fall like that could kill them, still dramatically lessens the idea of godlike durability for Asgardians.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Which movie did jedi's bring down a start destroyer with use of the force? If it was so darn strong why even bother with the light saber then? Why not ragdoll all the droids and stormtroopers with just force TK?
The only instance I know would be Starkiller in the Force Unleashed game. Non canon.
Darth Nihilus, EU Palpatine and various other force users have fairly casually TK'd Star Destroyers, though EU so, non canon (that and them being on a completely higher tier, and some of those feats were fairly circumstantial but that's another story)
As for bothering with lightsabers if so, idk same reason alot of fictional characters with massively superhuman/magic/etc powers use swords and guns in fiction, because it's cool
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
TK/ Lightsaber, he's dead.
Maybe, but then a single shot of one of Loki's knives would be enough to kill a Jedi too. This match is not as one sided as you may think.
Let's be frank here: The jedis as far as movie feats are concerned are not some uber powerful TK users that casually throw around cars and boulders and what not. Their TK use is limited to a few pushes here and there and to a couple of choke holds against unsuspecting victims. The few times they actually lifted something really heavy (and I can count only 3 that I recall), it took quite a bit of preparation and effort. Dooku only immobilized someone once and only for a brief period. Thinking that they can immobilize someone indefinitely is a no limits fallacy.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Darth Nihilus, EU Palpatine and various other force users have fairly casually TK'd Star Destroyers, though EU so, non canon (that and them being on a completely higher tier, and some of those feats were fairly circumstantial but that's another story)As for bothering with lightsabers if so, idk same reason alot of fictional characters with massively superhuman/magic/etc powers use swords and guns in fiction, because it's cool
Dont remember the Nihilus and Sids moment. Which novels?
I know Sids nearly wiped out a fleet using his Force Storm tho.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Maybe, but then a single shot of one of Loki's knives would be enough to kill a Jedi too. This match is not as one sided as you may think.Let's be frank here: The jedis as far as movie feats are concerned are not some uber powerful TK users that casually throw around cars and boulders and what not. Their TK use is limited to a few pushes here and there and to a couple of choke holds against unsuspecting victims. The few times they actually lifted something really heavy (and I can count only 3 that I recall), it took quite a bit of preparation and effort. Dooku only immobilized someone once and only for a brief period. Thinking that they can immobilize someone indefinitely is a no limits fallacy.
His daggers can easily be blocked by a saber.
Loki can be strung out on TK, Long enough for a saber blow.
Yoda lifted the x wing, are you suggesting he can't be lifted and stopped?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Proof that lightsabers can block magical knives? After all, the only thing we see lightsabers block are blaster beams which are energy projectiles, not physical projectilesYoda lifted the xwing and took forever to do it. He won't have that kind of time in the middle of a fight.
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You just sunk your own argument.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Proof that lightsabers can block magical knives? After all, the only thing we see lightsabers block are blaster beams which are energy projectiles, not physical projectilesYoda lifted the xwing and took forever to do it. He won't have that kind of time in the middle of a fight.
Lightsabes cant block daggers because they are magic but the can block force lightning which is basically magic.😂
And the he can't lift Loki, cmon, don't pull a quan.