Originally posted by bbrem123We already knew that, based on the events of ep.12 + the slew of threads/responses that have ensued since its release... We didn't need another bait-thread on the subject.
I dont think that is the point Galan. He is just proving that GT is inferior to DBS. Which it obviously is.
It's just spamming at this point. carver will try to act like he's totally innocent/oblivious, as always, but his intent is perfectly clear.
Originally posted by Galan007Agreed. I am assuming he was annoyed with all the GT spamming and other discrediting the feat in general.
We already knew that, based on the events of ep.12 + the slew of threads/responses that have ensued since its release... We didn't need another bait-thread on the subject.It's just spamming at this point. carver will try to act like he's totally innocent/oblivious, as always, but his intent is perfectly clear.
Originally posted by Galan007
This is a loaded question, and carver knows it (shows you how childish some can be.)The events of DBS ep.12 represent the first time a quantifiable feat beyond the planetary-tier has ever occurred in the mythos... So obviously it's impossible to guess which characters can duplicate it. srsly
^ This.
Going by scaling, the GT characters should still be a lot stronger than even the Super characters, so far.
But the simple lack of feats on GT's part can't stretch that far. The feats in GT are planet level, while Super is literally CASUAL universe level at this point. Too big of a gap to say that they just don't have feats at this point, imo.
Originally posted by Galan007
We already knew that, based on the events of ep.12 + the slew of threads/responses that have ensued since its release... We didn't need another bait-thread on the subject.It's just spamming at this point. carver will try to act like he's totally innocent/oblivious, as always, but his intent is perfectly clear.
Yup.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Wait, so GT characters are no longer ridiculously powerful compared to canon characters?(I haven't kept up with Super or the new movies)
Not any more. It could still be scaled that way, by simple statements and power scaling, but Goku and Beerus in DB Super can literally universe bust in three PUNCHES.
Unfortunately for Goku though, he still has limits. Therefor, Superman, who has no limits, would win.
Originally posted by bbrem123
Superman would not win. Wtf. Of course Supeman has limits. Also I am confused SSGGogeta. Do you think DBS or GT is superior. Pretty sure I saw you say GT was.
I was obviously being sarcastic. Or at least I hope it was obvious. But no, Superman would lose Goten.
And with simple scaling, GT is superior. Far and away.
But the scaling can't make up for the differences in feats. GT is planetary, by feats. DBS is multiversal now, by feats.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaahh Gotcha. 👆
I was obviously being sarcastic. Or at least I hope it was obvious. But no, Superman would lose Goten.And with simple scaling, GT is superior. Far and away.
But the scaling can't make up for the differences in feats. GT is planetary, by feats. DBS is multiversal now, by feats.
Originally posted by bbrem123
ahh Gotcha. 👆
Glad we cleared that up. 👆
GT is no longer cannon by any stretch, and shouldn't even be compared to DBS or even DBZ in context.
If it was though, the GT characters would be much stronger than the DBS characters, and they would have multiversal, probably even omniversal, feats.
But they don't, because GT is practically dust in the wind at this point.
Originally posted by bbrem123
That is where I dont agree.If they were that strong we would have seen feats like at least once or during the Omega/SSJ4 Gogeta fight. Their clashes were not even close to the one Beerus and Goku had. DBS is inconsistent with the numbers they spit out. Making all these calculations meaningless.
What are you trying to say here?
I just said that GT was weaker, because it is no longer consistent enough to even be compared to DBZ or DBS.
But the numbers are still accurate. It's just that GT shouldn't even exist, not to mention the fact that it doesn't give any feats at all, and characters like Great Ape Baby Vegeta even struggled to planet bust, when Goku and Beerus struggled to NOT universe bust, lol.