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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What are you trying to say here?

I just said that GT was weaker, because it is no longer consistent enough to even be compared to DBZ or DBS.

But the numbers are still accurate. It's just that GT shouldn't even exist, not to mention the fact that it doesn't give any feats at all, and characters like Great Ape Baby Vegeta even struggled to planet bust, when Goku and Beerus struggled to NOT universe bust, lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong though with how I interpreted it.

Originally posted by bbrem123
I must be miss understanding you. You said GT is weaker. But the numbers don't lie and by the numbers GT is superior. You know that makes absolutely no sense.

Correct me if I'm wrong though with how I interpreted it.

You clearly have no idea what's going on here; so let me make this as simple as possible for you.

The numbers are correct. If someone who didn't use godly ki, say like Goten or Trunks, got the point one day where they were stronger than Super Buu in their base forms, then they would be stronger than current Whiss and Beerus as SSJ1's. This is fact, as Beerus is AT BEST, 100 times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku. Meaning that anyone who is MORE than 100 times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku would ALSO be more powerful than Beerus.

Still with me?

The entire series of GT is what is known as an inconsistency. Since the lack of feats is too great to bridge the gap between DBS's universe level feats, and GT's planetary feats, we no longer take it into consideration, meaning that things stated in it are no longer taken at face value, even for itself as a series.

This means that while the numbers put GT above DBS, GT simply has a lack of feats too large to compensate for the numbers it uses.

However, the numbers are still applicable. That's the thing about math, it doesn't get retconned, even if a series does.

Do you understand now?

Originally posted by bbrem123
Superman would not win. Wtf. Of course Supeman has limits.

People are mocking what Deathbattle said.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You clearly have no idea what's going on here; so let me make this as simple as possible for you.

The numbers are correct. If someone who didn't use godly ki, say like Goten or Trunks, got the point one day where they were stronger than Super Buu in their base forms, then they would be stronger than current Whiss and Beerus as SSJ1's. This is fact, as Beerus is AT BEST, 100 times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku. Meaning that anyone who is MORE than 100 times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku would ALSO be more powerful than Beerus.

Still with me?

The entire series of GT is what is known as an inconsistency. Since the lack of feats is too great to bridge the gap between DBS's universe level feats, and GT's planetary feats, we no longer take it into consideration, meaning that things stated in it are no longer taken at face value, even for itself as a series.

This means that while the numbers put GT above DBS, GT simply has a lack of feats too large to compensate for the numbers it uses.

However, the numbers are still applicable. That's the thing about math, it doesn't get retconned, even if a series does.

Do you understand now?

Originally posted by bbrem123
I get it. I'm just proving that the numbers have so sway to anything. Making them completely worthless. Why even us them at all?

We don't use them. 😕

There is no reason to. I'm simply pointing out that the calculations were correct, and the only reason that they are no longer valid, is because GT itself is no longer valid.

So while someone could still argue that GT is stronger, based on scaling from the numbers, they simply don't have the feats to back it, making it inconsistent.

But the numbers are still applicable. That's all I'm saying here. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
We don't use them. 😕

There is no reason to. I'm simply pointing out that the calculations were correct, and the only reason that they are no longer valid, is because GT itself is no longer valid.

So while someone could still argue that GT is stronger, based on scaling from the numbers, they simply don't have the feats to back it, making it inconsistent.

But the numbers are still applicable. That's all I'm saying here. 👆

Of course the calculations were correct. The theory to how powerful GT characters are from said calculations is what is incorrect. Which in essences makes the numbers completely worthless.

If GT and DBS were in the same Universe who would win iyo?

If DBS retroactively makes DBZ characters more powerful that's irrelevant to GT.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Of course the calculations were correct. The theory to how powerful GT characters are from said calculations is what is incorrect. Which in essences makes the numbers completely worthless.

If GT and DBS were in the same Universe who would win iyo?

I'm pushing this so much, because you always say how godly ki can't be affected by regular ki. And it definitely can.

And if GT was cannon to DBS, and took place afterword, and GT base Goku was still stronger than Super Buu was in DBZ, then yes, GT would be stronger than DBS. They would also have better feats.

See that is wrong. That is why you can't trust the numbers. They dont match up to he feats. You would still have GT doing planetary feats. They are just not in the same league.

Im not saying if it was canon. I am saying if the characters both existed in the same universe as they have been shown, regardless of when they take place. You think GT is superior? Your reasoning is the numbers right?

That is where you are wrong. You put to much value in the numbers when the feats obviously do not back them up and make they actually usable.

I'll laugh if DBS SSJGSSJ Goku still goes down to that laser cheapshot 😂

Oh man I would not be able to contain myself ha.

Sad thing is, they are likely to leave that part intact...

Originally posted by bbrem123
See that is wrong. That is why you can't trust the numbers. They dont match up to he feats. You would still have GT doing planetary feats. They are just not in the same league.

Im not saying if it was canon. I am saying if the characters both existed in the same universe as they have been shown, regardless of when they take place. You think GT is superior? Your reasoning is the numbers right?

That is where you are wrong. You put to much value in the numbers when the feats obviously do not back them up and make they actually usable.

This is a waste of my time. Like teaching quantum physics to a chimp.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I was obviously being sarcastic.

When people react to your obvious sarcasm taking it seriously you have to start to wonder if your regular opinions aren't a bit too hardcore mmm

hahahaha^ the kid has the most idiotic views and he is an ass on top of it. Im not even gonna waste my time on him.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
This is a waste of my time. Like teaching quantum physics to a chimp.

Originally posted by Bentley
When people react to your obvious sarcasm taking it seriously you have to start to wonder if your regular opinions aren't a bit too hardcore mmm

Nah, I just chock it up to them being stupid, for not being able to understand blatant sarcasm.

You clearly areN'T a dumb ass though, Bentley. 👆

Originally posted by Bentley
When people react to your obvious sarcasm taking it seriously you have to start to wonder if your regular opinions aren't a bit too hardcore mmm

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
This is a waste of my time. Like teaching quantum physics to a chimp.

Reported.

So not one person here agree's with Gogeta, but he says everyone does while at the same time says everyone else is wrong.

Go figure.