Kenobi vs. Revan (Sabers only)

Originally posted by Stigma
Lol Dooku's accomlishments as a duelist are well known. What has Revan ever done with a saber that even suggests he is comparable? You do realize that its the pretender that needs to show his worth. In other words, should I make arguments that Dooku can defeat Starkiller in a duel or is Starkiller a much less renowned duelist that needs to show his worth. Same with Revan.

I understand a lot of people really really like Revan but they need to grasp the reality that he's not a duelist that can defeat Maul or Kenobi for a majority in a sabers fight, no matter people in Dooku's league

GG. 👆

Revan's dueling skills might be archaic but he should be deadly in this area. His precognitive abilities and command of the Force are stuff of legends.

Count Dooku is also not renowned for inventing new moves or such, his dueling skills are also archaic:

The other was former Master Dooku, whose own fighting style was archaic, yet stunningly effective.

Taken from Power of the Jedi Sourcebook

Knowledge of several Forms of Lightsaber combat or inventing new moves do not guarantee superiority in a Lightsaber duel for a Jedi. The ability to perceive moves of an opponent with greater clarity coupled with the ability to react faster than the opponent enables a Jedi to countering the moves of an opponent in an effective manner and eventually outduel him.

Palpatine slaughtered the likes of Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin not due to (supposed) superiority in dueling skills. Palpatine denied them the opportunity to maneuver with preemptive assault and overwhelmed them with sheer speed and ferocity.

Kenobi.

Points can be made for Revan but Kenobi is ultimately the better duelist.

What, like having superior stamina/Force reserves?

Ant will find a way...

Nah, Ant's cases for Revan's skills are pretty shit, tbh.

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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nah, Ant's cases for Revan's skills are pretty shit, tbh.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
mmm Still going to rape your ass into oblivion when you find the confidence to take me on in Vader v Revan. 🙂

I've conceded more than you 😂

That you constantly want others to concede to you is just proof that you can't earn their concessions 👆

Obi Wan

Originally posted by SunRazer
I've conceded more than you 😂

That you constantly want others to concede to you is just proof that you can't earn their concessions 👆

Nah. I'm one of the most liberal users here. I have no problem conceding a point/argument when it's passed my compacity to argue for.

Nice straw man, dipshit. No one ever said anything about conceding to any argument of mine, but it's just your shtick in general to debate things far past their expiration date and play "devil's advocate" instead of just conceding and moving own. 👆

You've admitted much yourself, and ILS hasn't hesitated to call you out on it, too. Just admit it, you're like a child who hates to lose. 😂

That's why I got into the HoF way before you did, and I even advocated hard to get you in. 😂

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nah. I'm one of the most liberal users here. I have no problem conceding a point/argument when it's passed my compacity to argue for.

And I've done much the same. More often than you as well.

Nice straw man, dipshit. No one ever said anything about conceding to any argument of mine

You do.

but it's just your shtick in general to debate things far past their expiration date and play "devil's advocate" instead of just conceding and moving own. 👆

Just like your shtick is running away once it becomes an actual debate instead of an insultfest?

You've admitted much yourself, and ILS hasn't hesitated to call you out on it, too. Just admit it, you're like a child who hates to lose. 😂

ILS doesn't think that anymore. Besides, getting angry over people not conceding seems more like a case of getting angry over not being able to convince people with your arguments and resorting to ad hominems.

I've conceded fair and just points probably more often than ILS has, and certainly more than you have.

Anyways, people change over time. Or, I mean, we can go back to five or six years ago when you were a literal troll on nobody's radar. You're not going to win by appealing to people's histories 😂

That's why I got into the HoF way before you did, and I even advocated hard to get you in. 😂

You might think that. I just don't advertise myself as others do. I leave it to others to do that for me if they wish. That's why you made it into the HoF - because you boast and advertise endlessly, but if anything peels the onion, they're disappointed. I admit you're better at the narcissistic boasting - but only because you have to do that to make yourself feel better. The truth destroys you every time you confront it.

Precisely why you were annihilated in our only conclusive CaV (you ran from the other one) and spent the next month or so getting counseling and mental rehab to get over your depression. I know I've struck a chord every time you resort to the HoF argument, because you have nothing else. Every actual measurable encounter between us has resulted in my victory. You're forced to resort to your own playground. Making it into the HoF first means you're better as a debater? I guess Richard Nixon's performance in the 1972 election puts him above most Presidents too.

Go back to getting french tips on your nails.