Originally posted by KingD19I guess that means a street thug beat Spectre in a fight too, since in Year 1, one swung a bat through his face.
I'm on my phone, but he basically flew/punched through Spectre's face iirc.
Damage to Spectre's physical form means nothing.
His continued talking to Adam like it didn't happen, and then told him he was going to destroy the wizard who enables his power, and then went and did it.
Originally posted by deathslash
treating an actual kid with absolutely no experience with his powers like he's a kid is impressive now?
Yes. Shazam is pretty powerful on his own.
Meanwhile, Hercules has thrown down with Thor on multiple occasions, made the destroyer armor stagger from one of his punches, blocked punches from the hulk, fought sentry, and even staggered galactus.
He has stalemated Thor, Destroyer treated him like a child, got his shit pushed in by Hulk, fought a holding back Sentry and never fought Galactus in 616 continuity except in Alpha Flight 100 where Galactus power wasn't working.
Is that supposed to be impressive?
Yep he moved the moon with the help of parallax/ sinestro. So with the help of the cosmic embodiment of fear he managed to move the moon. Meanwhile, Hercules has held the earth and the heavens themselves up for three hours.
Hercules never held the earth. He just held the heavens which is as unquantifiable as they come.
He kind of did. Adam was punching him repeatedly and when he finally used his magic lighting, that's when ultraman casually broke his jaw. What's even worse is that he was still unconscious by the time that Luthor came around and had to be saved by black manta.
He wasn't oneshotted. You think getting beaten by Ultraman is low showing? Daredevil has koed Hercules bro.
I'm not saying that Adam loses this fight, but to say that herc can't win even if their speed was equalized is a ludicrous statement.
Yes, he can.
Originally posted by abhilegendit's really not that impressive. Sure Billy is powerful, but when you're talking about two characters with the same powerset, of course the much more experienced one is gonna make the new kid on the block look like a weakling. That's like saying that it's impressive that earth 2 superman owned earth 1 superman. One character has clearly reached the peak of what both of them are capable of accomplishing and has decades of experience over the other.
Yes. Shazam is pretty powerful on his own.He has stalemated Thor, Destroyer treated him like a child, got his shit pushed in by Hulk, fought a holding back Sentry and never fought Galactus in 616 continuity except in Alpha Flight 100 where Galactus power wasn't working.
Is that supposed to be impressive?
Hercules never held the earth. He just held the heavens which is as unquantifiable as they come.
He wasn't oneshotted. You think getting beaten by Ultraman is low showing? Daredevil has koed Hercules bro.
Yes, he can.
Yeah. Stalemated thor, shaking the destroyer armor and briefly having the upper hand against the hulk are all impressive. The sentry fight brings out one aspect of Hercules that Adam won't be prepared for. Herc is a dirty fighter and will do almost anything to win. Do you think adam's prepared for receiving crotch shots, nipple twisters, getting swung around by his cape, or getting his hood pulled over his eyes?
Actually, yes he did. I can't remember the issue number at the moment so I'll probably look for it tomorrow. Anyway, holding the heavens>>>>>>>>> pushing the moon. Hercules has also pulled new york, held Manhattan together, and casually lifted Manhattan just to dump Thor into the water. Adam only has like four or five strength feats to his name right now (and his biggest one consists of receiving help from parallax).
A character goes all out, unleashes multiple punches and his ultimate attack and get his jaw casually broken for his efforts and has to be rescued by black manta and is still only semi conscious next issue and you don't call it being oneshotted? Maybe I'm crazy or maybe you are, so may you please post the scans of the "fight" so that we can both see a clear picture of what happened and move on? I'm also gonna need scans of that fight with "Daredevil" (or at least an issue number).
No, can't.
Originally posted by deathslash
it's really not that impressive. Sure Billy is powerful, but when you're talking about two characters with the same powerset, of course the much more experienced one is gonna make the new kid on the block look like a weakling. That's like saying that it's impressive that earth 2 superman owned earth 1 superman. One character has clearly reached the peak of what both of them are capable of accomplishing and has decades of experience over the other.
They are not at the same powerlevel. Adam is clearly stronger than him at the point.
Yeah. Stalemated thor, shaking the destroyer armor and briefly having the upper hand against the hulk are all impressive.
When did he ever had an upper hand on Hulk?
The sentry fight brings out one aspect of Hercules that Adam won't be prepared for. Herc is a dirty fighter and will do almost anything to win. Do you think adam's prepared for receiving crotch shots, nipple twisters, getting swung around by his cape, or getting his hood pulled over his eyes?Yes. He is a much brutal fighter than Herc too.
Actually, yes he did. I can't remember the issue number at the moment so I'll probably look for it tomorrow. Anyway, holding the heavens>>>>>>>>> pushing the moon.
No, it is not.
Hercules has also pulled new york, held Manhattan together, and casually lifted Manhattan just to dump Thor into the water. Adam only has like four or five strength feats to his name right now (and his biggest one consists of receiving help from parallax).
Both of them are non canon.
A character goes all out, unleashes multiple punches and his ultimate attack and get his jaw casually broken for his efforts and has to be rescued by black manta and is still only semi conscious next issue and you don't call it being oneshotted?Nah, Ultraman fought him for several pages and with several attacks.
Maybe I'm crazy or maybe you are, so may you please post the scans of the "fight" so that we can both see a clear picture of what happened and move on?
Do not have the scans atm.
I'm also gonna need scans of that fight with "Daredevil" (or at least an issue number).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107619/2066151-ddca.jpg
Daredevil 156.
No, can't.
Laughable. Hercules isn't strong enough to beat him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107619/2066151-ddca.jpgDaredevil 156.
Such a KO. Such... ABHI.
The following page:
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/dd155-7-620x886.jpg
#abhilies
The 'battle' took place in Daredevil v1 #155-156:
http://i.imgur.com/x0fCQnW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FNTap6X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XVawaaN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lFeKVos.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6Gbt3MT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WPiZXkP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vkf2qiI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a8apFDY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9hGJAkH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vh3EcSp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ocCNGSQ.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007so it was just herc getting hit in the back with captain America's shield?
The 'battle' took place in Daredevil v1 #155-156:
http://i.imgur.com/x0fCQnW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FNTap6X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XVawaaN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lFeKVos.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6Gbt3MT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WPiZXkP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vkf2qiI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a8apFDY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9hGJAkH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vh3EcSp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ocCNGSQ.jpg
Edit: also, thanks for the scans galan. I knew that abhi was probably leaving out some context.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Such a KO. Such... ABHI.The following page:
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/dd155-7-620x886.jpg
#abhilies
Originally posted by Galan007
The 'battle' took place in Daredevil v1 #155-156:
http://i.imgur.com/x0fCQnW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FNTap6X.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XVawaaN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lFeKVos.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6Gbt3MT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WPiZXkP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vkf2qiI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a8apFDY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9hGJAkH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vh3EcSp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ocCNGSQ.jpg
😂
I'm shocked.
