The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 7: Emperor Malgus vs. Mace Windu

Started by ILS6 pages

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Originally posted by ILS
So much Malgus wank, and I can't believe I'm actually about to defend Windu here.

He only "struggled" to lift the piece of metal because him and Anakin just got finished being blown up at point blank. Malgus probably wouldn't have done much better had he eaten an explosion without his armor.

Tossing away a few tons of rubble from absolutely massacred buildings isn't that great, as much as some want to pretend Malgus practically threw two buildings, or that he was way more powerful than a Jedi who did so, it didn't happen. The fact is, Malgus had some of the rubble from both buildings fall above him, so he caught what was immediately above him, no more no less. The Jedi tipped over the rubble of two scorched buildings with shitty foundations, which is nice but not all that great.

Malgus' lightning wouldn't be an issue for Mace, given he was holding back Sidious' lightning, which at the time was potent enough to bend his lightsaber back at him. He even tanked several seconds of Sidious' lightning and only finally died when he hit the ground outside.

The False Emperor showings are also being wanked. In the cutscenes he uses lightning on a team who haven't gotten their weapons out to defend themselves, and also have no readily apparent defences prepped either. Call it shitty cutscene making on SWTOR's part, or idiocy on the character's part, but they were unprepared. Great that his lightning can down 4 people who aren't defending themselves, but not really overwhelming. The Force push is pretty much another example of shitty defence on the protags part. They make no visual attempt to defend themselves. It's a momentary lapse.

The choking is simple gameplay mechanics. Highly doubt the three-phase or whatever "Malgus is coming for you now" shit is meant to literally represent what was happening.

So yeah, Malgus is great, I like him better than Mace, but let's get his war-torn cock out of our throats once and for all, mmk? Besides, his medium-effort, omnidirectional blast that shifted his transport, busted windows and doors inward, sent hordes of people flying at high speeds etc, early on in Deceived is better wank that nobody bothers using.

👆 Excellent post.

Agreed; also:

Originally posted by Selenial
Stopped caring about this thread when I saw Thanaton beat Wyyrlok, Kek.

Originally posted by ILS
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Excellent post @ Carthage.

Originally posted by ILS
Tossing away a few tons of rubble from absolutely massacred buildings isn't that great, as much as some want to pretend Malgus practically threw two buildings, or that he was way more powerful than a Jedi who did so, it didn't happen.

Malgus obviously was way more powerful than the Jedi who smashed those buildings. He one-shot the dude through his dual lightsaber defense and was confident he could crush him in a manner of ways.

I find it silly to suggest Mace has a greater / stronger connection to the Force than Malgus.

I don't think ILS believes that, he was just criticizing the False Emperor feats and bringing up that the protags may have not expected Malgus's force attacks.

Which is why Malgus isn't on par with Vader. 🙂

I've never placed Malgus on par with Vader in power, but you don't had to be Vader to have a distinct advantage over Mace with the force.

Are people seriously suggesting that Mace on neutral ground can survive Sidious' force attacks?

Mace also had a big rage amp when fighting Sidious.

Yeah the book mentioned he had to sink back into Vaapad to deflect his lightning.

Good for Malgus he didn't do anything to piss off Samuel. His showings against Sidious are irrelevant.

Originally posted by carthage
I've never placed Malgus on par with Vader in power, but you don't had to be Vader to have a distinct advantage over Mace with the force.

I'm talking about the general community. But if you're not Vader+, it's unlikely that your advantage in the Force over Mace is greater than his skill edge against Malgus.

Hardcore shit logic is hardcore shit logic.

Not when his best feats in the force aren't on par with Smashing through the barriers of powerful force users and he's inferior overall in raw power. People are acting as of Malgus can't at least contend, when Mace has never stomped or even humbled a duelist on Malgus's level. His skill is being overstated when beings like Pre-TCW Ventress and Saesee can compete with him, and as I previously stated he'd take a saber duel everytime

Originally posted by carthage
I've never placed Malgus on par with Vader in power, but you don't had to be Vader to have a distinct advantage over Mace with the force.

Which is why Mace considered himself "immensely" less powerful than Kar Vastor, whom Vader was stated to far outclass in regards to strenght in the Force. 💃

And yet Kar Vastor's force strength has been stated by more than one person to be in league with Yoda's and Papatine's.

Seems like an exaggeration to me and he was also sensing him as he was attuned to his environment on Haruun Kaal, which was tainted with Darkside energy due to the Summertime war

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus obviously was way more powerful than the Jedi who smashed those buildings. He one-shot the dude through his dual lightsaber defense and was confident he could crush him in a manner of ways.
No shit, what I'm saying is the Jedi in question didn't "smash two buildings". He pulled down two massacred mounds of rubble.
Originally posted by Sinious
Are people seriously suggesting that Mace on neutral ground can survive Sidious' force attacks?
Don't think anyone suggested that.