Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

Started by riv66724 pages

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Mid meta kinda like spidermans precog

Pretty sure others'd rank it higher; i've seen that thing used as an suto win on way too many sites.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Cosmic Armor>All

Originally posted by Stoic
Aren't the GL rings semi sentient as well? I guess that it would depend on a persons perspective as to what they believe that a weapon is. If I were to judge the Uni Power, I would call it a weapon. A very sophisticated one, but one all the same. What about Mother Boxes? Aren't they sentient?

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Destroyer Construct - High Trans - Low Cosmic.

Aegis Armor - Low Cosmic/Mid Sky Father: The Aegis is one of the most powerful personal body armor's in comic history.

Iron Man Armor - High Meta - Mid Herald (depending on the suit)

X-O armor - Low Herald: Not sure if the X-O suit can be classified as a weapon? If so, I guess that the Venom symbiote has the right to also be classified as a weapon.

What's the difference between trans and cosmic?

I think on this site trans is above Surfer (power cosmic) below sky father.

Or something...🤨

Originally posted by meep-meep
What's the difference between trans and cosmic?

Well you have low cosmic characters that would extend from low herald to high herald (Nova corps - Silver Surfer). mid cosmic characters that range from low trans to low sky father (Morg WOL - Thanos), and high cosmic characters that range from mid sky father to low abstract which would range from Uatu (Mid SkyFather) - Phoenix (Low Abstract)

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Originally posted by riv6672
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It is, but Galactus isn'y really a Sky Father but at certain levels can be challenged by them. Look at the Stranger. He is clearly a cosmic character. I'd place him in the Mid Cosmic bracket with Uatu. These characters aren't magical, but they can certainly give Zeus a fight. maybe the Sky Father tier should be dissolved in favor of the Cosmic scale, and where Odin would stack up to characters like Stranger, Uatu, Galactus, and Dark Phoenix. There are far more cosmics out there than there are Sky Fathers after all.

Always considered this

Herald..trans. Sky...cosmic

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Always considered this

Herald..trans. Sky...cosmic

it's something that should be thought long and hard about. The reason for this, is because there are cosmic characters below Sky, and above Sky.If we don't change it there should be terms that are interchangeable. it's complicated, but the wide range of characters would be impossible to place in certain boxes if they didn't belong there.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Always considered this

Herald..trans. Sky...cosmic

Yeah. That's how I thought it was tiered.

Originally posted by Stoic
it's something that should be thought long and hard about. The reason for this, is because there are cosmic characters below Sky, and above Sky.If we don't change it there should be terms that are interchangeable. it's complicated, but the wide range of characters would be impossible to place in certain boxes if they didn't belong there.

I'm picking up what you're putting down. It seems unnecessarily convoluted though. Just imo. I understand you though.

Originally posted by riv6672
I think on this site trans is above Surfer (power cosmic) below sky father.

Or something...🤨

Yeah. I was under the same assumption.

ive always seen it as meta-herald-trans-skyfather-eldergod-cosmic.............though i occasionally just remove the elder god side

Originally posted by Genii96
ive always seen it as meta-herald-trans-skyfather-eldergod-cosmic.............though i occasionally just remove the elder god side

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Back to topic. Could the symbiote be considered a weapon considering it's sentience?

symbiote is a sentinent organism..i wouldnt call it a weapon.....otherwise people like x23 on her trigger scent,etc would be considered weapons too?

-cosmic level-great weapons of the universe...(i think there are 8 of them-UN,IG,CCu etc)
-trans-can be broken by skyfathers- cap's shield,
-skyfather level-mjonir,hades' helmet of invisibility,poseidon's trident,lasso,zeus' thunderbolt,namor/aquaman's trident

Originally posted by meep-meep
I'm picking up what you're putting down. It seems unnecessarily convoluted though. Just imo. I understand you though.

I know what you mean. I don't even want to attempt to wrap my mind around it. I guess the old tier system should remain in play until someone comes up with something that really makes sense without the confusion. Perhaps Sky Father should be interchangeable though.

For example; Low Meta, Mid Meta, High Meta, Low Herald, Mid Herald, High Herald, Low Trans, Mid Trans, High Trans/Low Cosmic, for guys like Thanos, Darkseid, Mordru, Phoenix 5. Low Sky Father/Mid Cosmic, for guys like Uatu, Stranger, Synnar from Hardcore Station. High Sky Father/High Cosmic, for guys like Odin, Tyrant, Dark Phoenix, Average Galactus. Low Abstract/High Cosmic Plus/Elder God for guys like Rune King Thor, Franklin Richards, Galactus at well fed ranges, Micheal Korvak etc.

My point is that at a certain point things tend to become murky, and in order to represent all of the various powers, certain titles should be interchangeable.

The power levels will always be fluid tho

Originally posted by meep-meep
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Back to topic. Could the symbiote be considered a weapon considering it's sentience?

I would consider it as a Bio weapon, just like Tony's new symbiote tech armor, X-O Manawar armor, The Witchblade, Spawn's demonic suit, The Helmet of Nabu, etc. They all have a symbiotic relationship with these sentient items of power. Some are organic while others are cybernetic, or mystical.

The Power Gems are sentient as well from what i recall.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
The power levels will always be fluid tho

Very true.