Originally posted by Stoic
I would consider it as a Bio weapon, just like Tony's new symbiote tech armor, X-O Manawar armor, The Witchblade, Spawn's demonic suit, The Helmet of Nabu, etc. They all have a symbiotic relationship with these sentient items of power. Some are organic while others are cybernetic, or mystical.The Power Gems are sentient as well from what i recall.
tony's armour is a biological weapon imbued with very little intelligence,just enough to understand and obey his commands and follow him.nabu's helmet just holds the consciousness of nabu,and allows him possess whoever wears it...the symbiote can move,interact and even communicate normally and other functions of normal organisms......plus most of those other ones were created through science or magic....and iirc,the symbiote actually comes from its own planet
Originally posted by Stoic
I would consider it as a Bio weapon, just like Tony's new symbiote tech armor, X-O Manawar armor, The Witchblade, Spawn's demonic suit, The Helmet of Nabu, etc. They all have a symbiotic relationship with these sentient items of power. Some are organic while others are cybernetic, or mystical.The Power Gems are sentient as well from what i recall.
I think ghost riders chain falls into a similar category. It's pretty powerful as well. Maybe high meta, low herald tier.
Originally posted by meep-meep
I think ghost riders chain falls into a similar category. It's pretty powerful as well. Maybe high meta, low herald tier.
I was just thinking about those chains lol.
Originally posted by Genii96
tony's armour is a biological weapon imbued with very little intelligence,just enough to understand and obey his commands and follow him.nabu's helmet just holds the consciousness of nabu,and allows him possess whoever wears it...the symbiote can move,interact and even communicate normally and other functions of normal organisms......plus most of those other ones were created through science or magic....and iirc,the symbiote actually comes from its own planet
Venom and Carnage are a lot like X-O Manowar. I know that the Guyver units aren't Marvel or DC, but those units are also similar, and they were meant to be bio weapons.
Wonder Woman's bracers (pre-reboot)-
Durability- at *least* High Skyfather, never breached in the entirety of their run, taken attacks like the Shattered God, Omega Effect, and similar.
Offense- Once unlocked, lightning, lmid-herald offense (turned a Professor Ivo made android capable of taking herald level hits to dust, harmed a real god, killed the Themyscira island thing, but very short range).
Wonder Woman's tiara- Herald level offense. Has been used to decapitate gods, cut Superman, etc., but being thrown gives it limitations.
Normal Batarangs- Low Street
Stephanie Brown's special batarangs- (Goop, sonic, explosive, etc.) High Street
Tactigon- One-shotted Ultimo, called 'class 100' level. Apparently flexible. Mid herald at least.
Webshotters- High street. Flexible, disabling, but not all that hard to overcome unless used in large amounts.
Where would yall place All Black The Necrosword? It bumped a what appeared to be street level being up to roughly Odins level and bumped a Skyfather up to abstract level. It can create low herald level beings apparently by the millions,(black berserkers on every planet killing gods, some that wrestled black holes). I was thinking like a tier or so below the Infinity Gauntlet and things like that.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Where would yall place All Black The Necrosword? It bumped a what appeared to be street level being up to roughly Odins level and bumped a Skyfather up to abstract level. It can create low herald level beings apparently by the millions,(black berserkers on every planet killing gods, some that wrestled black holes). I was thinking like a tier or so below the Infinity Gauntlet and things like that.
I'd place it on the same level as the Power Gem. If Galactus had possession of the PG and was written correctly, his powers would sky rocket as well. I'm not sure that it would bump him up past High cosmic though. High level reality warpers like the original Beyonder, Mxy, etc may still be well beyond even that level of power. I wonder what others think though?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Captain Cold's gun.Enables a normal guy to tangle with heralds.
Well, kinda. It lets him tangle with *specific flavors* of heralds, and he loses.
Mid-meta, maybe? Whereever we rate Cold overall, really.
Weather Wizard's wand is at *least* high meta.
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Fred Perry's Gold Digger has Bain, which give (1) access to a world in a pocket dimension, (2) the ability to drain spellcasters, even vastly powerful herald level archmages, with a gesture, (3) can equip others with high-meta power armor or invisible low-meta forcefield strength/toughness enhancement.
At *least* mid-herald. Arguably more-so, but it is specialized, it's less good against powerful non-mages.
Hm, there's the magic sapper, a one-use 'drain all magic on the planet for 24 hours' device (well, not quite one use, but it takes a long time to charge). Trans to skyfather.
Beta rings. Give class 50+ strength and mach 2 inertialess (i.e. turn on a dime) flight. Turning a mountain into swiss cheese is just a matter of flying back and forth through it with them. High meta.
Sizematar. A sword that can be extended far enough to hit stuff in orbit if need be, or more reasonable lengths. Mid meta.
Gigalithion. Gigantic war robot, once fought against the *entire* dragon race (was curbstomping them til they got magic, then it merely became an even fight, and even though it lost it survived!), involves betatech, has a psychic scream which 'poisons' the minds of psychics and turns them to it's side, Trans to Skyfather level.
Time Raft. Once it's powers are unlocked and understood, gives time freezing, super acceleration and slow down, and numerous other effects to a very high level by unlocking time magic. High trans.
Soul blades, one of the higher levels of magic weapons, gives the wielder specific abilities like turning to smoke, great super strength and ability to hold ground as if one was colossal in size, or similar. Mid to high meta.
Elemental weapons, just a step down. Gives a wide variety of powers related to a specific element. An example being ice fang, which gives- autoprojectile blocking, throw ice spikes, make ice walls, freeze the ground, create a super-cold field over a sizable area, and similar. Depending on the user and the specific item, low to mid meta.
magik's soul sword-can affect almost anything (magical, non magical, intangible beings) absorb souls and life forces, turn opponents into monsters, create magical constructs, ranged blasts, transmute, allows you to teleport across time, space, dimensions, gives you armor and a ton of other applications
mirror master's gear- turns you into glass, dimensional travel, illusions, mirror world copies of opponents you can actually destroy dimensions and opponents by trapping them in the mirror and crushing it etc...