ROTS Anakin and Mace vs Sidious
ROTS scene Mace agrees with Anakin and together they decides to arrest Sidious to stand trial while Sidious has complained of being too weak help me anakin! Mace still has his arm and is standing over Sidious with his light lightsaber. Sidious then turns on both of them. Sidious has a second lightsaber hidden but both Mace and Anakin are prepared and ready.
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If that's the case Sidious can use the force to knock Anakin unconscious thus making this a Mace vs Sidious. Sidious would win due to him having the greater command of the force, and they were seen as equals when mace went into Vaapad so it would ultimately come down to force powers.
Sidious in a struggle.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Mace had Sidious at his mercy. He had to beg Anakin to save him. This is a stomp.
If that's the case Sidious can use the force to knock Anakin unconscious thus making this a Mace vs Sidious. Sidious would win due to him having the greater command of the force, and they were seen as equals when mace went into Vaapad so it would ultimately come down to force powers.Sidious in a struggle.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Mace had Sidious at his mercy. He had to beg Anakin to save him. This is a stomp.
I wouldn't say he was completely defenseless. Besides, someone that can use Force lighting never really is. Sidious goes from pleading to be sparred to:
"POAHWAH!!!!!! UNLIMITED POAHWAH!!!!!!!"
From what I can see Sidious was just trying to edge Anakin closer to the Dark Side.
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBirdI would. The only reason he switched from saying you will die to help me Anakin is because logically he ended his help to escape his current situation at the mercy of Windu.
I wouldn't say he was completely defenseless. Besides, someone that can use Force lighting never really is. Sidious goes from pleading to be sparred to:"POAHWAH!!!!!! UNLIMITED POAHWAH!!!!!!!"
From what I can see Sidious was just trying to edge Anakin closer to the Dark Side.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Mace had Sidious at his mercy. He had to beg Anakin to save him. This is a stomp.
I know how you feel about this and you know how I feel about this, however the novelization does say that the two are equals when mace was boosted by Vaapad they were equals with the saber. Anakin really can still be ragdolled by Sidious and taken out of the contest quickly if Sidious sees fit. Mace vs Sidious, the victor woudl ahve to come by virtue of their force powers, and Sidious outstrips everyone in force power. This is most certainly not a stomp for anyone here.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So what ? Windu did so under his own power and style. Sheev had his hands full with Windu and just needs to not aid Sheev while Windu kills him this time.
I know how you feel about this and you know how I feel about this, however the novelization does say that the two are equals when mace was boosted by Vaapad they were equals with the saber. Anakin really can still be ragdolled by Sidious and taken out of the contest quickly if Sidious sees fit. Mace vs Sidious, the victor woudl ahve to come by virtue of their force powers, and Sidious outstrips everyone in force power. This is most certainly not a stomp for anyone here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So what ? Windu did so under his own power and style. Sheev had his hands full with Windu and just needs to not aid Sheev while Windu kills him this time.
I'm not downplaying mace. I fully agree that under Vaapad he would be able to stalemate him as of that battle. However the novelization says they were Equals. That means neither one can overpower the other by just their sheer skill with the saber. So eventually Sidious will use his command of the force to win the battle.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Save we see Windu best him via skill. That's evidence. You just saying yeah Sheev can win when the film says otherwise tells another tale.
I'm not downplaying mace. I fully agree that under Vaapad he would be able to stalemate him as of that battle. However the novelization says they were Equals. That means neither one can overpower the other by just their sheer skill with the saber. So eventually Sidious will use his command of the force to win the battle.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Whatvyoubfeel isn't important. The facts are and Windu beat Sidious despite your denial.
I'm not sure if Vaapad will be as potent now since Windu has had his chance to get his anger out and believe hd win the fight. So I'm not seeing Vaapad helping him to the same extent so with that I say that Sidious can actually win his battle with Mace with just his saber.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Save we see Windu best him via skill. That's evidence. You just saying yeah Sheev can win when the film says otherwise tells another tale.
Again with a boost that was only able to stalemate him. Also you and I have differing opinions on the Sidious vs Windu debate so rather not reopen that can of worms. That was one instance that is mysterious and debatable.