ROTS Anakin and Mace vs Sidious

Started by redpill3 pages

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Barris had just empersoanted his padawan, and blew up part of the Jedi temple killing other Jedi. Ventress was the enemy, but I get your point.

He didn't seem to have conflict when he risked his limbs to kill him, and also killing all the Jedi in the temple, even the younglings.

padme was there. that is conflict

Originally posted by redpill
padme was there. that is conflict

That would put him over the edge seeing as how he believed Obi turned her against him.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That would put him over the edge seeing as how he believed Obi turned her against him.
its called love. it creates conflict

Originally posted by redpill
its called love. it creates conflict

Conflict that set Anakin to the point to where he would be perfectly willing to kill Barris for draining Ahsoka and Obi an turning Padme against him.

Mace wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mace wins.

We know. You've stated your opinion already.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
We know. You've stated your opinion already.
You're becoming a real nuisance.

If this becomes a mace vs Sidious fight, Mace isn't winning. Mace had many special circumstances that occurred that he won't be getting here. One of those being his boost. Vaapad I believe won't be as strong. My reasoning would be his personal anger. Yes it's still there, but possibly not as potent. He has already fought Sidious and redirected his power, and has Anakin on his side. He has achieved certain things that really reduce his inner anger.

Second. He can't use his shatterpoint like he did in the novel. Anakins on his side, or out of the competition due to Sidious' command of the force. With his Vaapad not being as potent anything less than what he brought to the table in ROTS is less than Sidious full power. With that he woudl be overwhelmed. Even if it is compleltely the same thy are still equals. With the equality, it will eventually come down to force powers.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If this becomes a mace vs Sidious fight, Mace isn't winning. Mace had many special circumstances that occurred that he won't be getting here. One of those being his boost. Vaapad I believe won't be as strong. My reasoning would be his personal anger. Yes it's still there, but possibly not as potent. He has already fought Sidious and redirected his power, and has Anakin on his side. He has achieved certain things that really reduce his inner anger.

Second. He can't use his shatterpoint like he did in the novel. Anakins on his side, or out of the competition due to Sidious' command of the force. With his Vaapad not being as potent anything less than what he brought to the table in ROTS is less than Sidious full power. With that he woudl be overwhelmed. Even if it is compleltely the same thy are still equals. With the equality, it will eventually come down to force powers.

Why wouldn't he get angry ? You can deny the facts all you want and there's no evidence Palpatine wins only tang he loses. Nah, Windu disarms and kills him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why wouldn't he get angry ? You can deny the facts all you want and there's no evidence Palpatine wins only tang he loses. Nah, Windu disarms and kills him.

I never said he won't get angry, just not as angry as he was then. He's already engaged Sidious in his in the moment action sequence. The evil me is in the movie and novelization. In the novelization he has Vaapad to a certain point, and shatterpoint, and the movie Sidious is stalking the battle for Anakin. Here Anakin is already on Mace's side. That shatterpoint can't work again. I've already explained Vaapad so all of that Mace isn't winning again.