MID-HERALD TOURNAMENT DISCUSSION

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You want more, less?

Its one of those things if majority rules, we go for it.

FOR: BW, Smurph, DS
AGAINST: carver
Whatsgoingon? Don't care: Beatboks

Don't want it period. The fight should start off like every other fight. Taking that route gives some people more advantages than others. Huge advantages. Especially with someone like Doom 🙂 .

Shouldn't be any advantages. All of the fights should be fair on BOTH sides.

3 vs 3

I'd be willing to split the difference (it's currently at a couple of seconds). 5 seconds, but you can go in battle-ready, not just raising traditional shields - which seems to be discriminating against non-shield makers and advantageous to people like Scoobs who's big gun is all about having a super shield.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't want it period. The fight should start off like every other fight. Taking that route gives some people more advantages than others. Huge advantages. Especially with someone like Doom 🙂 .

Shouldn't be any advantages. All of the fights should be fair on BOTH sides.

Current prep is enough time to raise a shield. So, you'll probably go in facing Tiny BoltNeto with shields raised. Not everyone can raise a shield. So it's not really fair for them not to play to their battle strengths.

Oh crap, Carver has started thinking logically.... I may have to stop thinking about round two already.

😛

Originally posted by Blair Wind
3 vs 3

I'd be willing to split the difference (it's currently at a couple of seconds). 5 seconds, but you can go in battle-ready, not just raising traditional shields - which seems to be discriminating against non-shield makers and advantageous to people like Scoobs who's big gun is all about having a super shield.

Current prep is enough time to raise a shield. So, you'll probably go in facing Tiny BoltNeto with shields raised.

Exactly. For those who can't raise shields (like you guys), its a disadvantage.

For guys like me and Scoob, we have a few seconds to put up massive shields and just walk into the match.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Current prep is enough time to raise a shield. So, you'll probably go in facing MagBoltAtom with shields raised.

That's a terrible name ... You should be ashamed of even thinking about posting that.

Also Doom's shields are nothing to sneeze at either, he's not going in with a disadvantage.

Generally, opponents start at a reasonable distance. Giving you time to... I dunno.... Absorb weird metal properties and grow large.... or something, with time to spare before the first punch is even thrown.

Originally posted by Scoobless
That's a terrible name ... You should be ashamed of even thinking about posting that.

Also Doom's shields are nothing to sneeze at either, he's not going in with a disadvantage.

Generally, opponents start at a reasonable distance. Giving you time to... I dunno.... Absorb weird metal properties and grow large.... or something, with time to spare before the first punch is even thrown.

Smirk... 👆

The starting distance should be sufficient.

Originally posted by Scoobless
That's a terrible name ... You should be ashamed of even thinking about posting that.

Or maybe like, 'Tiny Nuke Man'.

Anyways, each of my characters can raise shields. I wasn't putting this whole idea forward because I need prep time, but because I actually bought into Scoob's argument in the previous tourney about non-traditional shields (ie, cloaking) being viable, since it takes the same time and is also a defensive option.

It doesn't really matter to me though, I'm good either way.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly. For those who can't raise shields (like you guys), its a disadvantage.

For guys like me and Scoob, we have a few seconds to put up massive shields and just walk into the match.

Not seeing a great disadvantage for anyone. The only ones I can see who don't have shield capability don't really need it.

One of my build parts has taken a tribal pre industrial society and taken them to the space age in 6 months.

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/captain%20comet/Showcase9610p19.jpgoriginal.jpg.html
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/captain%20comet/Showcase9610p20.jpgoriginal.jpg.html
As well as possessing Faster than Light speeds (not by much but still).
He achieved hundreds of years of technological advancement in 6 months and he's merged with a genius who worked out a way to tap the power cosmic. Even 10 seconds of prep allows me to do a LOT more than others. That feat however is completely useless in a battle scenario where your already engaged in battle.

Originally posted by Smurph
I wasn't putting this whole idea forward because I need prep time, but because I actually bought into Scoob's argument in the previous tourney about non-traditional shields (ie, cloaking) being viable, since it takes the same time and is also a defensive option.
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That's what I genuinely thought it meant, apparently others didn't agree, or hadn't considered that interpretation... I just assumed "time to raise shields" meant the actual time span, and anything defensive would be within the rules as long as it didn't take more than a few seconds.

This, obviously, wouldn't cover any sort of power up, weapon creation, summons or offensive spellcasting (or other)

Same, I just assumed defensive measures.

I didn't think it meant running to stand right next to you or something lol

Ok all amping is allowed. And you want 5 seconds of Prep.

Give me
Mid: Void (Wildstorm)
Mid: Captain Atom (Pre DCnU)

And ill twist this competition inside out.

Ha.

Amping is still off the table.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
How about I allow ALL AMPING? Stay under trans and you can do whatever you want as long as you can prove it in a debate. None of the "bringing a realm onto someone's domepiece" business, though.

What do you all think?

What was the final verdict to this? 😕

Originally posted by "Id"
What was the final verdict to this? 😕

Pretty sure it was a "No" or simply ignored.

Originally posted by "Id"
What was the final verdict to this? 😕

No.

Oh ok.

Than the amping rules are as they where last established in the Low Herald class?

Originally posted by "Id"
Oh ok.

Than the amping rules are as they where last established in the Low Herald class?

Shouldn't be any prep.

Originally posted by carver9
Shouldn't be any prep.

Originally posted by beatboks
Speaks volumes for the fairness of the players when the three players who would be most advantaged by prep are the ones heavily arguing against it though

Or, the ones most advantaged by the rules are arguing against any change....

Doom: shields.

Magneto: uber shields