Originally posted by Stoic
DC is filled with inconsistencies though. Darkseid didn't face a threat as large as COIE AM. AM has been nerfed. Krona is up and down across the board.
That's JLA/AVENGERS Krona. The one who beat down Galactus. AM has the power of several universes in him. Same as Krona iirc.
Originally posted by Galan007
^ DCnU AM has the ALE.He effortlessly took control of a universal abstract(Black Racer/Death), merged it with Flash(whom he also took control of), and used this new Death amalgam to seemingly kill Darkseid.
Krona was resisting the IG, and several other weapons of unimaginable power.
Originally posted by Galan007
^ DCnU AM has the ALE.He effortlessly took control of a universal abstract(Black Racer/Death), merged it with Flash(whom he also took control of), and used this new Death amalgam to seemingly kill Darkseid.
What has the Ale done though?
Universal Abstract Black Racer? Come on Galan, what are you basing this off of? He mixed his power with Black Racer charge attack and killed Darkseid. AM doesn't have the fts.
Originally posted by carver9In every previous DC continuity, Black Racer=a universal aspect of Death. There is no indication that he's a lesser entity in the DCnU.
What has the Ale done though?Universal Abstract Black Racer? Come on Galan, what are you basing this off of? He mixed his power with Black Racer charge attack and killed Darkseid. AM doesn't have the fts.
In fact, given that Darkseid himself is significantly more powerful in the DCnU than he's ever been depicted in the past(AM fed on entire universes prior to even attempting to confront him), yet his dues ex machina 'weapon' against AM was still the Black Racer/Death, I'd say BR is likely an even greater force than we've seen in the past.
Originally posted by Galan007
Please post a scan of Krona directly resisting the IG.
I don't have the time to, or ability to go through those books again. Perhaps I've forgotten, but I was under the impression that more than just the IG was needed to put a stop to Krona's schemes of learning the answers that he sought after.
Krona never directly resisted the items' power. In fact, said items were ultimately responsible for his downfall:
http://i.imgur.com/0RHjCmG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AMrdpD4.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007
Krona never directly resisted the items' power. In fact, said items were ultimately responsible for his downfall:
http://i.imgur.com/0RHjCmG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AMrdpD4.jpg
Thanks for the correction, but it still took all of those items to take him down. If it would have only taken the IG to stop him the rest of the items would have been redundant right? All the same, he had Two very powerful top level Abstracts subdued. How does the ALE even compare?
The reaction that resulted from all of those items becoming unstable is what took Krona down, yes. However, that certainly doesn't mean all of those items' collective energies were required just to defeat him. For example: if Lex Luthor were killed by a multiversal collapse, that doesn't mean it requires a minimum of multiverse-busting energy to kill him.
You're trying to impose a reverse no-limits fallacy, lol.
Anywho, the ALE can give its master control over nearly all sentient beings--ergo AM effortlessly taking control of Death itself, and turning it against Darkseid... And despite his immense power, absolutely nothing indicates that Krona would be immune to the ALE's effects.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Hawkeye kills them both
Honestly, this is why i hate when weak characters like Hawkeye/Green Arrow, as a matter of fact any weak characters are added in a conflict that deals with powerful beings like this.
Don't get me wrong, having said characters in a advice giving roles is fine and all, but once those characters enters the battlefield, this is when the bad guy start to lose. A character like Chrona or Darkseid in Final Crisis as a ex. should just look, or wave there hands in these characters Green Arrow/Batman/Hawkeye direction is enough to kill them. But yet, somehow there able to drop these powerful deities like nothing.
Ex. Final Crisis. No way you spin it that Batman should have been able to hit Darkseid with that Bullet. The story was made that Darkseid magically wasn't fast enough to drop to the ground, or have one of his Omega Beams hit the bullet while the other kills Batman.
Rants over. Never read that crossover, is it a good read?
