Tempest Watches KOTFE

Looking up FluffyNinjaLlama's videos.

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Finishing up this video right now. So far, I've found it to be infinitely more intriguing than SWTOR. Not exactly original, but the

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killing of Valkorion early on and putting him in the role of The Obi-Wan was probably the most inspired decision yet with the character.

Interesting that he

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is killed via a lightsaber to the back and that he doesn't deny needing the protag's help against his children. "It will take both of us" and all that.

So far, it's kept my interest pretty solidly.

Agreed tbh regarding Valkorion, this is literally the first time the character has become remotely interesting. I for one, love it.

Originally posted by Selenial
Agreed tbh regarding Valkorion, this is literally the first time the character has become remotely interesting. I for one, love it.

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His admission that he was also in love and that his constant evolution has prompted some major character growth was a nice touch as well.

But BioWare is BioWare and so I have no doubt they'll ruin the whole goddamn thing.

There is this one line of Valky that Temp will particularly cherish. It's in chapter 8 so I won't spoil it.

I plan on watching some more tonight. I'm hoping KOFTE keeps its momentum.

Valkorion is not dead; he exists on a different spectrum then mortals. He forged some kind of connection with the Outlander and did this on purpose. Lana Beniko, in particular, suspects that he is up to something and cannot be trusted. She is correct.

"Your death is too good to be true. You can't fool me." (The Outlander)

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion is not dead; he exists on a different spectrum then mortals. He forged some kind of connection with the Outlander and did this on purpose. Lana Beniko, in particular, suspects that he is up to something and cannot be trusted. She is correct.

"Your death is too good to be true. You can't fool me." (The Outlander)

You mean just like every other sith who has become a spirit? Kek.

And I don't know why you think you're in a position to say she's correct, unless you work for Bioware and have seen/written the next few chapters?

Originally posted by Selenial
You mean just like every other sith who has become a spirit? Kek.

And I don't know why you think you're in a position to say she's correct, unless you work for Bioware and have seen/written the next few chapters?

I posted a real dialogue as a hint. Valkorion responds that he is not trying to deceive the Outlander but make him realize the truth.

...Force ghosts are entities.

In every post you presume too much. I am pointing out faulty logic, not making a case.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...Force ghosts are entities.

"Voices... Hands... Children... I no longer require those crude vessels. At long last I am truly free." (Valkorion)

Valkorion is a disembodied being. He never died.

Force ghosts don't have power of their own.

Originally posted by norenetkrokosls
He exhibits virtually none of the characteristics of a force ghost and all of the characteristics of energy.

What is a Force Ghost "made" of then? Force energy is the obvious conclusion...

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes, but they are not disembodied beings.

"Voices... Hands... Children... I no longer require those crude vessels. At long last I am truly free." (Valkorion)

Valkorion is a disembodied being. He never died.

Force ghosts don't have power of their own.

Force ghosts do have power of their own, at least in SWTOR.

He did die, you see his corpse. He had a ****ing funeral 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Selenial
Force ghosts do have power of their own, at least in SWTOR.

He did die, you see his corpse. He had a ****ing funeral 😮‍💨

There are ample hints and demonstrations of Valkorion in disembodied form in SWTOR. Valkorion have achieved immortality and does not needs a physical form to exist.

In chapter 1, we witness destruction of a Valkorion's Voice. However, Valkorion laughs it off and informs the Outlander that he have established a connection with him and will assist him if it becomes necessary.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Force ghosts draw energy from the connection of a living being to the Force to manifest in the materialistic realm and influence it.

The same goes for Vitiate, from what we've seen. He only alters the physical realm through the Outlander or a host.

Spirits are disembodied entities too, LeG. 😬

Of course Vitiate isn't dead or a Force ghost. 😬

Suggesting that is pretty stupid, TBH.

Kindly take your nonsense elsewhere. This thread is dedicated to my insightful commentary on KOFTE.

Originally posted by norenetkrokosls
Valkorion also mind walked in the Outlander's mind. He's not dead, no matter how much you wish him to be. And oh praise jesus, ARCANN said. Well then, it must be true because Arcann knows?

No, you want it to be well backed. There's a difference.

How does that make him "not dead". Sith spirits have possessed people, and Sith Spirits on Dromund Kaas mind walked as well.

His physical body is dead and his essence cannot freely travel the Galaxy. That in itself is Valkorion being dead.

Saying he's not dead is like saying Kun never died until the NJO Era, and was in fact simply a 4000 year old normal everyday sith.

His physical body is dead and his essence cannot freely travel the Galaxy. That in itself is Valkorion being dead.

Well I mean, he kinda could before he was bound to the Outlander at least; he travelled from Yavin to Ziost. Unless he's one of those cases that can only appear on nexuses of the force.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well I mean, he kinda could before he was bound to the Outlander at least; he travelled from Yavin to Ziost. Unless he's one of those cases that can only appear on nexuses of the force.

Indeed, and he seems to have been weakened by his death to the point of no longer being able to do that. Fits in with Arcann saying he's significantly weaker, too.