Tempest Watches KOTFE

You're implying he can't do it because he's weaker, even though Ziost and Yavin were when he was at his weakest, and not because he's bound to the Outlander's body like a Voice would be.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Of course Vitiate isn't dead or a Force ghost. 😬

Suggesting that is pretty stupid, TBH.

Why? He seems to be a very potent Sith Spirit.

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Just watched the defiance option for the Republic. Valkorion

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blocking Arcann's strikes is cool, but hardly the stuff of legends. Satele or The Father palming that shit is much more impressive. Not to mention the dude goes down to a single blaster shot.

Anyway, back to the campaign I was watching:

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Vaylin, as of this moment, is

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only Kota-level, feat-wise.

Momentum is carrying. 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Kinda impressed that BioWare isn't yet making everyone a planet buster.

Agreed. After reading some posts I was expecting ridiculous displays of power but instead the character seem toned down in comparison to SWTOR.

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Oh joy. Another detente. Looks like Zakuul's superiority is predicated greatly on speed and awareness rather than raw firepower.

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Beniko says they pretty much ran roughshod over the Sith and Republic in approximately 3 months, which is pretty damn impressive, even though each faction was undoubtedly diminished due to their own previous battles.

Also interesting that everyone psychically sensed that Valkorion was Vitiate upon his death.

Originally posted by ares834
Agreed. After reading some posts I was expecting ridiculous displays of power but instead the character seem toned down in comparison to SWTOR.

Agreed. Starting chapter 4 now.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're implying he can't do it because he's weaker, even though Ziost and Yavin were when he was at his weakest, and not because he's bound to the Outlander's body like a Voice would be.

Ziost and Yavin were him at his weakest, feeding on a planet's worth of Dark Side Energy and mass death 😕

Take Ziost for example, Vitiate was weak. Vitiate dominated a tiny portion of the populace, because he was weak. They killed, the death fed him, he took control of more people and the chain reaction continued. By the time Vitiate got to his planet busting levels of power, he had been fed to the point of being in his prime once more.

All of this was caused by the death of his Voice. If Valkorion was the voice as many suggest, and not his actual body (Valkorion survived as a single being for hundreds of years, just so you know) then it stands to reason that the death of his body affects him just as badly. It's likely why he can't just possess the Outlander, it's why he couldn't outright obliterate Arcann like he could while he was alive.

It's pretty obvious Vitiate's turned back to his weakened spirit form, and for all intents and purposes he is dead.

What I'm kind of confused about though is how the Ziost and Yavin arcs make any sense if Valkorion was alive the whole time. Literally none of Vitiate's past story arcs make sense, since Senya implies he's been around for at least a century. Thoughts?

He can be multiple places in once, but on Ziost and Yavin most of him was locked away, perhaps.

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Lots and lots of dialogue here. Beniko continues to be compelling AF. I keep forgetting she's technically a bad guy. Vaylin continues to be batshit crazy and, thus far, not in an endearing way. Her habit for Random Murder might be more engaging if her post-mortem witticisms were actually, y'know, witty. An obvious homage to Vader/Needa, but the original outclasses it by miles.

This continues to have my interest. 👆

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Easily the most impressive feat thus far. Blown a bit out of proportion, though: it's taking the concerted efforts of three Force users and the engines are obviously playing a huge role.

Love HK's line about belief.

If he has a true body locked away somewhere, then the Hero killing him locked him away from that as well as Valkorion. Maybe when he invests his full spirit in a vessal, it actually all goes there and he's cut off from his other bodies and too weak to inhabit them when he's killed.

I think you need to rewatch Vaylin Force Crush a three story generator if you think that's the best TK feat.

Also, it's only just hit me, anyone else getting a Princess Azula vibe from her?

Originally posted by Selenial
I think you need to rewatch Vaylin Force Crush a three story generator if you think that's the best TK feat.

Also, it's only just hit me, anyone else getting a Princess Azula vibe from her?

3 story? mmm

That's an insult to Azula.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
3 story? mmm

That's an insult to Azula.

Probably more like 5 story, although it was ripping it apart not force crushing tbh.

Didn't seem that large. I'll go back and rewatch.

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The Gravestone is pretty beastly. One shot KO's approx. 24 ships? Arcann must have brought the whole fleet there to test its strength. He's growing on me as a bad guy. Less an omniscient chessmaster and more of a Magnificent Bastard opportunist.

Not getting the whole flow-walking thing. Valkorion specifically states he hasn't stopped time. Force users, especially powerful ones like the protag, obviously experience and process a wealth of stimuli at a much higher rate than do normal people. Sounds like it's a visual version of the oft' used literary trope that involves a character musing/rationalizing for 10 paragraphs in an event that happens in a split second.

Pretty powerful TK burst, though.

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The Scion stuff started to make me lose my interest.

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Senya being Valky's baby-momma was an interesting development. Arcann's displeasure at her treachery is also curious. Some seriously Oedipal shit going on up in hurr.

Also, Vaylin finally had a good line about the odd number stuff. Interesting dynamic between the brooding brother and his batshit crazy sister.

Originally posted by Selenial
Probably more like 5 story, although it was ripping it apart not force crushing tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Didn't seem that large. I'll go back and rewatch.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am giving scaling another try:-

Check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Top arrow points towards a multi-story structure that Vaylin initially targeted. Lets call it "bottom structure" since it rests below the "power core." It is like 15 stories tall.

2. Middle arrow points towards Lana Beniko and the Outlander. Notice how small they are in comparison to the surroundings?

3. Bottom arrow points towards gigantic trees that are like 10 stories tall each.

Now check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Left arrow points towards the "bottom structure."

2. Middle arrow points towards the protagonists mentioned above.

3. Right arrow points towards the power grids that separate the "bottom structure" from the area where Vaylin will throw the chunks.

Now check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Bottom arrow points towards the power grids that separate the "bottom structure" from the area where Vaylin is throwing the chunks. This time, angle is focused towards the area where chunks are being thrown by Vaylin.

2. Middle arrow points towards gigantic trees that are like 10 stories tall as pointed out by me earlier.

3. Top arrow points towards a massive chunk that is much larger then a bus in sheer size.

Now check this image:

You can notice a single arrow.

This arrow points towards a Starship that is passing by and it can be used for scaling purpose. The power core (itself) is like 10 stories tall.

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Clear enough?

facepalm

Originally posted by The_Tempest
facepalm

So you watched newer chapters?

Stopped at 6 last night. You should post that shit in a few more threads, though.