Jessica Jones

Started by Arachnid114 pages

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Somewhere they do mention that she heals faster than normal. So, not regen or super-healing, but faster than normal.

Well, Kilgrave is a psycopath. That's what makes him interesting. Instead of trying to take over the world or some other super-villain clichè he's just trying to have a good time, no matter who gets hurt. That's what made him compelling, imo. He is completely unpredictable, because he doesn't have some grand scheme.

They mentioned that she heals slightly faster 4 episodes later. Plus, not enough time passed from that episode to the next for a bullet wound to heal. That just seemed a bit off and weirdly handled.

Kilgraves motivation so far seems to be to get Jessica to love him, all because of an 18 second moment where he wasn't controlling her and she didn't leave. It just comes off as 'lame', as quan put it. Despite this, he has a ton of golden moments. I also love the chaotic unpredictable type villains but he's definitely no Joker or Goblin.

I will say that this show picked up significantly episode 7 and on. The second Kilgrave was given more time, things amped up considerably. To that end, he still makes a good villain. Just not as terrifying or noteworthy as I would have hoped.

There's also Simpson/Nuke. His development from do good cop who doesn't hurt innocence to randomly gunning down lawful detectives and trying to murder Jessica was a huge jump. There was no set up or transition. It just happened. He still had some really good and fun moments though (him murdering the detective was one of the biggest jaw droppers in the show). Still, all he really did though was make me want the Punisher in Daredevil that much more.

Three more episodes for me to finish tomorrow.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Kilgraves motivation so far seems to be to get Jessica to love him, all because of an 18 second moment where he wasn't controlling her and she didn't leave. It just comes off as 'lame', as quan put it. Despite this, he has a ton of golden moments. I also love the chaotic unpredictable type villains but he's definitely no Joker or Goblin.

I will say that this show picked up significantly episode 7 and on. The second Kilgrave was given more time, things amped up considerably. To that end, he still makes a good villain. Just not as terrifying or noteworthy as I would have hoped.

I find him compelling and fascinating specifically because of the way he is portrayed. When you study Criminology you find that he is portrayed as a near-classic psychopath - in other words the closest thing to a real-life villain you will find in a comic book, apart from mob bosses, etc. And what makes him even more terrifying is that his power is perfectly suited to his personality.
It is a if somebody found a handbook of personality disorders and simply used the checklist to create the perfect psychopath. This is why Kilgrave terrifies me a lot more than Kingpin, for instance. With Kingpin there is reason for what he does. and with classic villains like Goblin there is usually reason as well, no matter how messed up (typically vengeance or something similar).

But with Kilgrave there is absolutely no reason. He is as likely to order you to put your hand in the blender because he is bored as he is to stalk you because he thinks you slighted him.

Just for interest's sake:

The Hare Psychopathy Checklist – Revised

GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — The tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.
GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — A grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.
NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — An excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.
PATHOLOGICAL LYING — Can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.
CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS — The use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.
LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — A lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, cold-hearted, and non-empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.
SHALLOW AFFECT — Emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.
CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — A lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.
PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — An intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.
POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — Expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.
PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — A variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.
EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS — A variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.
LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS — An inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.
IMPULSIVITY — The occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.
IRRESPONSIBILITY — Repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.
FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS — A failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.
MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS — A lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.
JUVENILE DELINQUENCY — Behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.
REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE — A revocation of probation or other conditional releases due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.
CRIMINAL VERSATILITY — A diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.The word psychopath can be replaced with the word sociopath throughout this page. The meaning is very similar, if not the same.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
There's also Simpson/Nuke. His development from do good cop who doesn't hurt innocence to randomly gunning down lawful detectives and trying to murder Jessica was a huge jump. There was no set up or transition. It just happened. He still had some really good and fun moments though (him murdering the detective was one of the biggest jaw droppers in the show). Still, all he really did though was make me want the Punisher in Daredevil that much more.

I thought his abrupt transition into very ruthless and violent was easily explained by the red pill. Take that, become a super soldier filled with rage and barely able to think straight.

It's basically a berserker pill that leaves a bit of the mind left to make semi-important decisions.

Yeah. Nuke is basically psycho while on the red pill and enhanced by the surgery. . That's the transition.

Finally finished Season 1.
Enjoyed it. Different pace than Daredevil but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

This show reminds me of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

Kilgrave is probably my favorite character.

Tennant does a solid job at being a creepy creep.

Originally posted by Robtard
Tennant does a solid job at being a creepy creep.
Kind recognizes kind.

I want to see killgrave tell someone to eat their own a$shole

That's in season 2, the return of KG

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kind recognizes kind.
Quan, are you obsessed with Robtard?

Originally posted by Mindset
Quan, are you obsessed with Robtard?
Nah.

I'm obsessed with you Rob

Come on friend, just touch it

pls

Rob, just the tip.

pls respond

Weird.

Quan is so jealous right now.

nobody get's between Quan and his Rob.

He is my victim. That's for sure.

Don't be so testy friend

You're invited to the butt play

It's very exclusive

WTF is happening in this thread? haermm