Originally posted by Darth Thor
However in an all out it's pretty obvious Vader TK Crushes Maul. There's absolutely nothing to debate there. Maul has nothing on him in the TK Department. Nothing at all. Only a Complete TROLL would even bother to argue it especially given Vader's new Disney Canon feats.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off what is Kenobi above Qui ? He's been shown up by Cade Bane, Ventress, etc.Vader has slow movement speed and Maul is one of the quicker opponents here. He knows how to unbalance someone with rage as well which has been a problem for Vader. His emotions have always spilled out at pivotal moments unlike Maul.
Like I said around Qui not above but around that skill level. Being able to go toe to toe with Darth Vader.
That's really not going to get maul the win as Vader has never had a problem with more agile opponents. Maul can't really use Dun Moch on Vader, he doesn't have anything to attack. He doesn't know anything about Luke or Leia, and Vader isn't afraid of getting replaced by Maul so what does he have to work on? Vader's has superior force powers and has more refinement in his skill set.
^ He never even said Maul could take Vader. Quanchi's simply lying.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Vader wasn't trying against Ezra. He let Kanan and Ezra escape so he could follow them to the rebels... He could have easily killed both of them. Just watch the fight, he's hardly trying and he still overwhelms them.
Here he has Kanan at 1:00 but chooses to chuck him aside instead of stabbing/killing him:
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But don't bother explaining that to Quanchi. I've tried many times. His response is "coulda, woulda, shoulda... troll troll troll... all excuses.. troll troll.. he simply failed, he's a failure... keep trolling keep trolling..."
Originally posted by Darth ThorI don't look for other opinions typically to support mine I look at the facts and critically think for myself. The world used to think the world was flat.
You are alone though, because Barlow never agreed Maul could take Vader.The only guy who agrees with you on this is Marco.
Originally posted by ZenwolfNot when he lost which further bolsters the point Vader's win meant nothing as he only won when Kenobi stopped fighting.
You said that Obi didn't fight back, was just merely showing he did.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Maul's speed is a lot greater than Vader's. Speed matters. Darth Vader in the suit doesn't have one solid win over a competent Jedi he actually earned.
Convenient. He also happened to say that Maul's abilities weren't on Vader's level, and that Maul only stands beside him through sheer force of will.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So was Ventress but that doesn't make her any better than she was. Qui was awesome but Maul was simply better.
Like I said around Qui not above but around that skill level. Being able to go toe to toe with Darth Vader.That's really not going to get maul the win as Vader has never had a problem with more agile opponents. Maul can't really use Dun Moch on Vader, he doesn't have anything to attack. He doesn't know anything about Luke or Leia, and Vader isn't afraid of getting replaced by Maul so what does he have to work on? Vader's has superior force powers and has more refinement in his skill set.
Vader is a lot slower. Even his tk powers used against a weak Luke in esb was very slow. When Vader fought Ezra and Kanan he used slow and powerful movements. Vader lacks the speed to contend with Maul. Vader never defeated a competent skilled Jedi who resisted him.