Vader vs. Maul

Started by Rebel958 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have cited evidence in past debates showing Vader being slow as evidenced by the siege of lothal episode and the esb fight against Luke.

Except that's not evidence that's just your view which really doesn't count for shit.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Except that's not evidence that's just your view which really doesn't count for shit.
It is a fact he has slower movement and attack speed than Maul.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is a fact he has slower movement and attack speed than Maul.

Oh is it?

Originally posted by Rebel95
Oh is it?
Yes. It's like saying a sumo is faster combat wise than Bruce Lee.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes. It's like saying a sumo is faster combat wise than Bruce Lee.

No it's not, Maul is definitely more agile but I'm not so sure he's faster. Do you have proof?

Originally posted by Rebel95
No it's not, Maul is definitely more agile but I'm not so sure he's faster. Do you have proof?
The films. Vader's fights in the films is much slower in 4-6 than Maul is in Phantom Menace.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The films. Vader's fights in the films is much slower in 4-6 than Maul is in Phantom Menace.

Luke's super fast leap in ESB is faster than anything we've seen from Maul.

So ESB Luke > Maul. And Vader battered ESB Luke.

Therefore Vader >> Maul.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Luke's super fast leap in ESB is faster than anything we've seen from Maul.

So ESB Luke > Maul. And Vader battered ESB Luke.

Therefore Vader >> Maul.

No, it isn't. We see Maul operating much faster against Sidious in clone wars and look more impressive than Luke who was awful in esb. He lacked training.

Abc logic does not compute. Maul crushes esb Luke and beats Vader into the dirt. He's too slow.

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lol @ comparing an animated tv show to a movie from 1980.

Originally posted by Trocity
lol @ comparing an animated tv show to a movie from 1980.
He just said Luke was faster in the film from the 80's so I can't use canon evidence to prove my point ?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. We see Maul operating much faster against Sidious in clone wars and look more impressive than Luke who was awful in esb. He lacked training.

Abc logic does not compute. Maul crushes esb Luke and beats Vader into the dirt. He's too slow.

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And so the double standards continue.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Maul operating much faster against Sidious in clone wars

No we didn't.

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Luke's leap was still faster.

The acceleration in that straight up vertical leap was amazing

Nice try though.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
And so the double standards continue.
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
No we didn't.

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Luke's leap was still faster.

The acceleration in that straight up vertical leap was amazing

Nice try though.

Not than Maul's attacks which are more relevant to combat than leaping ability. We also see Luke easily dumbfounded as to how to react to the very slow tk attack employed by Darth Vader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Not than Maul's attacks which are more relevant to combat than leaping ability.

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Quit crying. Luke is faster. And super speed is clearly no concern for Vader.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
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Quit crying. Luke is faster. And super speed is clearly no concern for Vader.

Not at all. We see Luke can't even mount a defense against Vader's tk defense and the film make it clear that Luke isn't even ready or finished with his training.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He just said Luke was faster in the film from the 80's so I can't use canon evidence to prove my point ?

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The two aren't even comparable. And even if Maul was faster, Vader's strength, force and TK skills far outclass Maul's, it's not even close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. We see Luke can't even mount a defense against Vader's tk defense and the film make it clear that Luke isn't even ready or finished with his training.

Maul also has no defence against Vader's TK either.

Vader crushes a frigging AT-AT. So yeah he'll defo Tk crush TCW Maul same as Sidious did.

Originally posted by Rebel95
The two aren't even comparable. And even if Maul was faster, Vader's strength, force and TK skills far outclass Maul's, it's not even close.
There isn't any if Maul is faster. The evidence from the films definitely proves it. Nah. Maul took on his master who was far more powerful than Vader ever was and had better feats. Maul wins.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Maul also has no defence against Vader's TK either.

Vader crushes a frigging AT-AT. So yeah he'll defo Tk crush TCW Maul same as Sidious did.

Yes, he does with his own tk.

So destroying an at at somehow means what to Maul ? Look at his Maul's feat while being fired at from multiple angles and directions in clone wars. Much quicker while under duress. Vader wasn't under the same duress and we see many words spoken showing it took a while. Maul's feat was amazing while under the duress of combat.

Sidious didn't force kill Maul and he's superior to Vader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There isn't any if Maul is faster. The evidence from the films definitely proves it. Nah. Maul took on his master who was far more powerful than Vader ever was and had better feats. Maul wins.

There isn't any what? You don't make any sense haha. I just said you can't compare the speed of a character in a movie from the 80's to one's in a more modern animation, or in TPM. And like I said before, speed is nothing when compared to strength and force ability. Vader wrecks maul.