Some people shouldn't talk about things where their dislike skews perception.
That said a severely weakened sliced in half and blasted again Frieza survived a planet exploding on him with his innards exposed. A stronger than sliced in half Frieza (by a sizable degree) got disintegrated by Trunks easily.
Trunks about like 10 times more powerful couldn't even damage a Cell Jr. SS2 punched them in half easily.
Therefore we can conclude that Gohan does a crazy amount more damage in a focused area than a large planet exploding does. Gohan doesn't need to destroy a house when he can destroy beings dozens of times more powerful than Frieza with a punch. That's all he needs for feats.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Some people shouldn't talk about things where their dislike skews perception.That said a severely weakened sliced in half and blasted again Frieza survived a planet exploding on him with his innards exposed. A stronger than sliced in half Frieza (by a sizable degree) got disintegrated by Trunks easily.
Trunks about like 10 times more powerful couldn't even damage a Cell Jr. SS2 punched them in half easily.
Therefore we can conclude that Gohan does a crazy amount more damage in a focused area than a large planet exploding does. Gohan doesn't need to destroy a house when he can destroy beings dozens of times more powerful than Frieza with a punch. That's all he needs for feats.
Hhhhmmmm, good point. I would also like to add that Gohan two punches did far more damage than the 3 planet busters Cell endured (the one from both Vegeta and Goku, then Gohan planet buster that overtook cell planet buster).
Originally posted by carver9
How many times more powerful was he compared to his showing against Frieza?
Not even twice.
Remember that SSJ2 is double SSJ1. Meaning had he even doubled his power he would have been in the SSJ2 teir and would have been able to curb Perfect Cell
I think it was galan who broke it down but I'm not entirely sure. Basically the increases from the time chamber were indeed huge but were much less than most people think. Let's say Trunks goes in the chamber with a PL of 150 mil right? And he comes out with a PL 151 mil. At first it doesn't seem like a huge bump but when you think about it, 1 million is about the difference between a normal human and second form Frieza. And we know that is a HUGE difference in power. So even increases of around 1 million would still be considered giant leaps in power.
Hopefully that wasn't too wordy
Originally posted by juggerman
Not even twice.Remember that SSJ2 is double SSJ1. Meaning had he even doubled his power he would have been in the SSJ2 teir and would have been able to curb Perfect Cell
I think it was galan who broke it down but I'm not entirely sure. Basically the increases from the time chamber were indeed huge but were much less than most people think. Let's say Trunks goes in the chamber with a PL of 150 mil right? And he comes out with a PL 151 mil. At first it doesn't seem like a huge bump but when you think about it, 1 million is about the difference between a normal human and second form Frieza. And we know that is a HUGE difference in power. So increases of around 1 million would still be considered giant leaps in power.
Hopefully that wasn't too wordy
Good point but I don't think doubling the power of a super Saiyan would put them at the point of being able to punch beings that are greater than Super Saiyans 1 to dust with a single hit (Gohan vs Cell Juniors) or punch Cell twice damaging him. I think 10 times is reasonable imo. Is there an official power level guide for beings during the Cell saga? I would presume Cell was in the billions or high 100 millions.
one million is not really that much though. Wasn't 100% Frieza 120m and SSJ Goku 150m.
The advantage was not so great where it was not a fight, and that was a difference of 30m.
I feel like gauging stuff like that should be done in percent of power. (e.g. SSJ 2 Gohan was 100% stronger than Perfect Cell.)
Originally posted by carver9
Good point but I don't think doubling the power of a super Saiyan would put them at the point of being able to punch beings that are greater than Super Saiyans 1 to dust with a single hit (Gohan vs Cell Juniors) or punch Cell twice damaging him. I think 10 times is reasonable imo. Is there an official power level guide for beings during the Cell saga? I would presume Cell was in the billions or high 100 millions.
I don't think there is but it has been confirmed that SSJ2 is double SSJ1. Meaning Cell is probably not in the billions.
Originally posted by bbrem123
one million is not really that much though. Wasn't 100% Frieza 120m and SSJ Goku 150m.The advantage was not so great where it was not a fight, and that was a difference of 30m.
I feel like gauging stuff like that should be done in percent of power. (e.g. SSJ 2 Gohan was 100% stronger than Perfect Cell.)
It's not that much in the grand scheme I agree but remember in the Frieza Saga Vegeta was stomping dudes with a difference in power of less than 5K.
Now I'm not saying all Trunks increased was 1 million, I'm saying an increase of only 1 million would still be pretty big. He could have increased 30 million for all we know. But we do know he did not double his power
SSJ2 Gohan was less than twice as strong as Perfect Cell
People online thinks different. We honestly don't know but I can see more than double the amp here.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_real_MOST_ACCURATE_list_of_power_levels
Originally posted by carver9
People online thinks different. We honestly don't know but I can see more than double the amp here.
Since when is "people online" a valid source? We know from official sources that SSJ2 is double SSJ1. Therefore we also know that no one doubled the power of SSJ1 until Gohan did against Cell. It's really that simple
