Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All signs point to the Omega Effect failing to stop Onslaught...What else does Darkseid have DarkSaint?
I have provided scans of Darkseid succeeding with his aims, when he was at full power.
Do you have any scans of Onslaught resisting life-force entrapment? His consciousness being trapped?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Darkseid was trying to stop Doomsday and failed;thats a fact...Peak Power Onslaught>>HP Doomsday
True; at this starting distance, though? Pretty much point blank range 🙂
Edit: also, when he tried to stop Doomsday, he succeeded 🙂 I can post the scans if you want.
The problem is, he was trying to kill Doomsday, not trap his life-force. And was attacking from miles away when he attacked. This gave Doomsday the opportunity to evolve.
Something that Onslaught cannot do.
Omega Effect vs Henshaw...eventual success....after 2 tries...lol!
Omega Effect vs Doomsday...abject failure...didnt even stop him long enough for a forum win.
Omega Effect vs an opponent leeching Franklin and Nate? You give me an unbiased answer DarkSaint...but I know you cant, so Iill answer for you...it fails once again.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Omega Effect vs Henshaw...eventual success....after 2 tries...lol!Omega Effect vs Doomsday...abject failure...didnt even stop him long enough for a forum win.
Omega Effect vs an opponent leeching Franklin and Nate? You give me an unbiased answer DarkSaint...but I know you cant, so Iill answer for you...it fails once again.
Unbiased? You make the thread, and seemingly don't like it if it isn't going your way, lol.
I've provided scans showing that when Darkseid was fully healed, he atomised Henshaw in one blast (who has an insane HF on top of a body made out of Apokoliptian/Kryptonian metals and Kryptonian cells) AND simultaneously trapped his life-force.
I asked for scans of Onslaught resisting his consciousness being trapped (you know, like how he was trapped in the Heroes Reborn universe).
To form an unbiased opinion, SURELY I need info, right?
And I have only seen info for one side.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Unbiased? You make the thread, and seemingly don't like it if it isn't going your way, lol.I've provided scans showing that when Darkseid was fully healed, he atomised Henshaw in one blast (who has an insane HF on top of a body made out of Apokoliptian/Kryptonian metals and Kryptonian cells) AND simultaneously trapped his life-force.
I asked for scans of Onslaught resisting his consciousness being trapped (you know, like how he was trapped in the Heroes Reborn universe).
To form an unbiased opinion, SURELY I need info, right?
And I have only seen info for one side.
Voters agree with me so far... 👆
The common sense question is this: the OE couldn't stop Doomsday, so how can it stop a being that is leeching Franklin and Nate?
Answer, it cant...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True; at this starting distance, though? Pretty much point blank range 🙂Edit: also, when he tried to stop Doomsday, he succeeded 🙂 I can post the scans if you want.
The problem is, he was trying to kill Doomsday, not trap his life-force. And was attacking from miles away when he attacked. This gave Doomsday the opportunity to evolve.
Something that Onslaught cannot do.
Your argument here is bogus...
Darkseids goal was to stop Doomsday with the Omega Effect and it failed...
There is no way around this; if he could have stopped Doomsday with the OE he would have...but he couldn't.
Yet your contention is even though it couldn't stop Doomsday, it'll stop someone who is much more than Doomsday was in Hunter/Prey...
LoL...
You are arguing pro Darkseid just to argue with me.. admit it.
Considering most of the world thought the world was flat, that doesn't mean much 🙂
Even more pertinent, seeing as you (and others) didn't know things like Zauriel being > Low Herald, I think I'm pretty safe in my knowledge.
It DID stop Doomsday, but he evolved past it (as I'm sure you know, Doomsday can evolve).
Can Onslaught evolve?
Answer: No.
Was Darkseid at close range, using his full power?
Answer: No.
When Darkseid used his full power, did he trap Henshaw's life-force?
Answer: Yes.
Was Onslaught trapped in the Heroes Reborn Universe?
Answer: Yes.
You're welcome, once more 🙂
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Your argument here is bogus...Darkseids goal was to stop Doomsday with the Omega Effect and it failed...
There is no way around this; if he could have stopped Doomsday with the OE he would have...but he couldn't.
Yet your contention is even though it couldn't stop Doomsday, it'll stop someone who is much more than Doomsday was in Hunter/Prey...
LoL...
You are arguing pro Darkseid just to argue with me.. admit it.
It DID indeed, stop Doomsday. Who then evolved.
Something Onslaught cannot do 🙂
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Proof that Doomsday evolved past the OE...right, there is none.The OE stunned him, then DD got up and owned Darkseid...
Peak Power Onslaught in this thread, you know, the one leeching Franklin and Nate...you do realize that?
It took him out, then he came back.
As always.
Proof of Peak Power Onslaught actually doing anything? Right, there is none.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you continually bringing up Heroes Reborn Onslaught is a completely misplaced argument...
True, maybe you should showcase all the proof that he can indeed tank it.
After all, I've presented my proof. If you think it is lacking, please, provide scans of what you say is possible.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The only thing of note Darkseid did of note during Hunter/Prey was prove he was beyond Superman and Henshaw...But I guess in your world thats enough to suggest he can beat Onslaught...
I'm glad the rest of the forum knows better...
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Beyond an amped Superman who was further amped by New Genesis tech, and a Cyborg Superman who was further amped by Apokoliptian tech? Sure.
Now, any proof that he can resist his consciousness being popped into a Pokeball?
DS will catch em all!
What the forum thinks, does not make it right 🙂
Peak Power Onslaught demonstrated Solar level reality warp...
That is far beyond the ability of Doomsday; whom the OE failed to stop btw...
Onslaught's psionic ability was so strong that multiple hero teams couldn't even face him without prepping against psionic attack...
Yeah, Onslaught was definitely beyond Doomsday (who the OE failed to stop) during Hunter/Prey...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@DarkSaintOne more thing, you have said that DD evolved beyond the OE without anything to substantiate it...
You are now attempting to debate with fictitious data; in other words you are now trolling...
I know you like to argue with me, but making stuff up is not the way to go...
Are you accusing me of trolling? Better report me then! If you don't, then you'd better apologise.
In this thread, only I have backed my claims up with proof. You, haven't.
I am truly sorry that once more, your lack of comic knowledge has found you out in an attempted spite thread.
You obviously wanted Onslaught to win; when people come in offering an alternative view, you attempt to shut them down and drown them out. Most spoilt of you, as a thread starter.
If you want proof of my claims, I am happy to provide it. But calling me a troll, just because I not only offer a counter position, but also proof? That's just not cricket, old chap.
Did Darkseid manage to use his OB at point blank range, which he was convinced would snuff DD out? No.
Was he trying to trap DD's life force, as insurance for the future? He gave no indication, so I will say, no.
When Darkseid used his full power, did he trap Henshaw's life-force?
Answer: Yes.
Was it what he wanted to do? Yes.
You mad because you cannot argue with any of that? 🙂
You are absolutely trolling; you made up something without proof and tried to use that as evidence...thats trolling.
And no, I wont report you as thats for weaklings; I'll just continue to blast holes in your argument solo...
There is no evidence that Doomsday evolved beyond the OE...fact.
The OE took out a Herald during HP...fact.
The OE failed to take out Doomsday during HP...fact.
Onslaught demonstarted far more on panel power than Doomsday during HP...fact.
Onslaught wins...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You are absolutely trolling; you made up something without proof and tried to use that as evidence...thats trolling.
And no, I wont report you as thats for weaklings; I'll just continue to blast holes in your argument solo...
There is no evidence that Doomsday evolved beyond the OE...fact.
Doomsday was hit once, it did not KO him. Darkseid then talks about nobody ever surviving them at point blank range - then gets taken out before he can try. FACT.
The OE took out a Herald during HP...fact.
Never argued against this, am glad you are slowly coming to my way of thinking.
The OB failed to take out Doomsday during HP...fact.
Onslaught demonstarted far more on panel power than Doomsday during HP...fact.
Debateable - and even then the life-force trapping is beyond what Onslaught can withstand, based on Onslaught's showings. Fact 🙂
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
At the end of the day, my statements are completely true and cannot be disputed:It took the OE two shots to take out Henshaw...
One of which was when he was weakened 🙂
The Omega Effect failed to take out Doomsday...
Those are the facts and they are undisputable...
Not so; he never used the Omega EFFECT against Doomsday. Only the Omega Beams.
I am sure you knew that, of course, right? 🙂