Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are you accusing me of trolling? [b]Better report me then! If you don't, then you'd better apologise.In this thread, only I have backed my claims up with proof. You, haven't.
I am truly sorry that once more, your lack of comic knowledge has found you out in an attempted spite thread.
You obviously wanted Onslaught to win; when people come in offering an alternative view, you attempt to shut them down and drown them out. Most spoilt of you, as a thread starter.
If you want proof of my claims, I am happy to provide it. But calling me a troll, just because I not only offer a counter position, but also proof? That's just not cricket, old chap.
Did Darkseid manage to use his OB at point blank range, which he was convinced would snuff DD out? No.
Was he trying to trap DD's life force, as insurance for the future? He gave no indication, so I will say, no.
When Darkseid used his full power, did he trap Henshaw's life-force?
Answer: Yes.
Was it what he wanted to do? Yes.
You mad because you cannot argue with any of that? 🙂 [/B]
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Originally posted by deathslash
agreeing with your own statements? That's just sad. Darkseid wins and I'm 0retty certain that he wasn't even using the full omega effect on doomsday.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You may need to re-read H/P.Don't worry, I am always happy to help 🙂
Here, DS SPECIFICALLY says he is about to try his ultimate attack, but gets hit before he can do so:
BAH indeed!
Here, DS SPECIFICALLY says he is now at the peak of his power:
http://postimg.org/image/fkv34ld77/
http://postimg.org/image/5ma4i43rn/
http://postimg.org/image/xdl8q7jtf/So when he failed, he wasn't at his peak. BUT, when he WAS, it succeeded.
Given the battle stips, DS wins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85right before he shot doomsday in the back, didn't he say that his beams burn hotter than even the firepits of the planet? I don't recall his full omega beams "burning" anything. Don't they just erase what they hit from existence? Wouldn't that mean that when he shot doomsday, he was only using the force beams?
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Originally posted by deathslash
right before he shot doomsday in the back, didn't he say that his beams burn hotter than even the firepits of the planet? I don't recall his full omega beams "burning" anything. Don't they just erase what they hit from existence? Wouldn't that mean that when he shot doomsday, he was only using the force beams?
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They burn hotter than the fiery pits of Apokolips itself.
He was trying to KILL Doomsday, as his next sentence referred to his body as 'lifeless'.
DS Pokeballs Onslaught and keeps him as a necklace.
Originally posted by deathslash
agreeing with your own statements? That's just sad. Darkseid wins and I'm pretty certain that he wasn't even using the full omega effect on doomsday.Ps. DS has been killing you in this debate.
No, he's been lying, making stuff up, and being dishonest just to argue with me...
Originally posted by deathslash
right before he shot doomsday in the back, didn't he say that his beams burn hotter than even the firepits of the planet? I don't recall his full omega beams "burning" anything. Don't they just erase what they hit from existence? Wouldn't that mean that when he shot doomsday, he was only using the force beams?
He also contradicts himself in that sequence; what did he say when he initially unleashed his power on Doomsday?
'No being has ever withstood my power' or something close to it; if that was true, then the 'no one has withstood it from point blank range' comment makes no sense...
No matter how hard DarkSaint tries, he cant cjange the fact that he's arguing on the behalf of an ability that could only 2 shot a Herald and failed to one shot Doomsday...
That is not open to speculation and is 100% fact...
I think it's more foolish that some here actually believe an attack that could only 2 shot Henshaw can all of a sudden one shot Onslaught leeching Franklin and Nate...
But common sense doesn't exist here apparently...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
He also contradicts himself in that sequence; what did he say when he initially unleashed his power on Doomsday?'No being has ever withstood my power' or something close to it; if that was true, then the 'no one has withstood it from point blank range' comment makes no sense...
No matter how hard DarkSaint tries, he cant cjange the fact that he's arguing on the behalf of an ability that could only 2 shot a Herald and failed to one shot Doomsday...
That is not open to speculation and is 100% fact...
I think it's more foolish that some here actually believe an attack that could only 2 shot Henshaw can all of a sudden one shot Onslaught leeching Franklin and Nate...
But common sense doesn't exist here apparently...
You do know the story made it that Doomsday did die, but evolved and come back right.
Originally posted by SquallX
Yes, it was even explained by either Superman or Wave Rider, that Doomsday was evolving and adapting on the fly.That's why they had to send end to the beginning of time and have Entropy kill him.
Where was that said?
I have an original copy of Hunter/Prey right here infront of me right now and I dont see that anywhere...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Where was that said?I have an original copy of Hunter/Prey right here infront of me right now and I dont see that anywhere...
When Supeman and Doomsday were beating each other in the last book. Don't remember who said it, but one of them did say he was evolving on the fly.
It was also eluded to that when he became immune to the Radiants energy powers because he had previously die fighting him yrs ago.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
He also contradicts himself in that sequence; what did he say when he initially unleashed his power on Doomsday?'No being has ever withstood my power' or something close to it; if that was true, then the 'no one has withstood it from point blank range' comment makes no sense...
Is it energy Yes/No? If Yes, then surely the further away you are, the less powerful it is.
No matter how hard DarkSaint tries, he cant cjange the fact that he's arguing on the behalf of an ability that could only 2 shot a Herald and failed to one shot Doomsday...
Was he trying to trap DD's life-force Yes/No?
That is not open to speculation and is 100% fact...
Whilst ignoring bucketloads of context
I think it's more foolish that some here actually believe an attack that could only 2 shot Henshaw can all of a sudden one shot Onslaught leeching Franklin and Nate...
But common sense doesn't exist here apparently...
Different attack, different power levels of Darkseid.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Where was that said?I have an original copy of Hunter/Prey right here infront of me right now and I dont see that anywhere...
That explains it; you obviously have your own copy that is missing pages. Let me help you, ONCE MORE (you can add it to the Zauriel tab):
That scan supports my argument that the OE didn't kill Doomsday...
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Also its assine to argue that Darkseid didn't unleash his full power on Doomsday but did so against Henshaw...
Doomsday was the greater threat and Darkseid tried to stop him personally as he admitted nothing else would work...
Bottomline is that Darkseid was beneath Doomsday and couldn't stop him; the writer even says so in the preface...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That scan supports my argument that the OE didn't kill Doomsday...👆
Also its assine to argue that Darkseid didn't unleash his full power on Doomsday but did so against Henshaw...
Doomsday was the greater threat and Darkseid tried to stop him personally as he admitted nothing else would work...
Bottomline is that Darkseid was beneath Doomsday and couldn't stop him; the writer even says so in the preface...
Did we say it did? 👆
Well, the writer specifically wrote DS to say, I am how at peak power, just before he one shots Henshaw. Writers' words, not mine. Inarguable fact.
Full capacity rule, means he'll be at those levels. You can't use his earlier failure to one shot Henshaw, as he wasn't at full power 🙂 that's against the rules. Inarguable fact.
Next, you need to prove that he tried his full power to trap DD. Not attempt to kill, TRAP. 🙂. I'm sure you're aware the Omega Effect can be used for, well, a variety of effects. Inarguable fact.
DS pokeballs Onslaught, and gains a new charm on his friendship bracelet 🙂