Arcann vs. Darth Malgus

Started by carthage3 pages

Arcann vs. Darth Malgus

Round 1: Sabers only

Round 2: All out fight

Battle takes place on neutral ground

Arcann. I'd honestly put the TOR protags near Malgus by KotFE.

Interesting, considering the circumstances.

What circumstances?

The circumstances of Malgus also getting Tiplee'd.

Am I the only guy who payed attention while playing or something?

This should be good. Or do you not actually have a point and are only stalling?

KotFE is hardly the protagonist's prime. The Outlander spent 5 years in an imperfect carbonite.

Valid point

There's never a point where they go get healed from it or take the time to recover either.

Also I read the codex entry on carbon freezing: "Its use in freezing living creatures is relatively new in the galaxy and considered highly dangerous–subjects frozen for more than a few hours have a very low survival rate unless the carbonite is prepared with much expense at an elaborate facility."

If even a few hours is usually lethal, the Outlanders 5 years is a pretty significant thing. The carbonite poisoning is stated to be killing you. The Outlander is severely ****ed up from the carbonite poisoning for most of the early chapters, it's mentioned as miraculous they're able to walk at all, let alone fight. We all know how bad Han was in RotJ. They clearly recover but theres no indication it's back to full health and ability. At least 1 character mentions that you look like shit compared to the last time he saw you and you get the option to point out the carbonite freezing.

How long would he be hampered by the effects though?

Valkorion is also stated to be healing you the entire time. Fact. It's been quite a while since KotFe began, Oggurobb even says months in dialogue. Fact.

There's been plenty of time to get over being frozen and plenty of extraordinary means to get over it, including having a Force Entity's power surge throughout the Outlander's body. Fact is, the Outlander was just inferior, and the sooner we accept that the better.

He only heals you in your dreams and might be actually doing enough to keep you alive but theres no indication he's healing you in the game. The Outlander doesn't show any sign of being healed while they're staggering around Zakuul.

Originally posted by carthage
How long would he be hampered by the effects though?

Dunno. The freezing was clearly way shittier than Han's and was longer and it probably didn't help that they have to fight and do stuff near constantly over the few days the expansion takes place over.

The guy I mentioned says you look like crap in chapter 9 tho, which is the last one so I guess pretty long.

Right after the Outlander gets stabbed in the stomach they say Valkorion is healing them and kept them alive. Unfortunately, your opinion means absolutely nothing here compared to theirs.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Right after the Outlander gets stabbed in the stomach they say Valkorion is healing them and kept them alive. Unfortunately, your opinion means absolutely nothing here compared to theirs.

So? At best the Outlander is equal to SoD protagonist. Unless you have some fancy theory them getting better while being frozen for 5 years.

I assume you mean SoR. And considering that literally everyone improved after SoR up until KotFE, I'm going to disagree with you. It's idiotic to think they stayed static in the time up until KotFE begins as well as during it. Because as I pointed out, a lot of time as gone by already.

Gotta say its funny though seeing some say that Outlander isn't operating at peak efficiency (he likely isn't) after being out of the game a few years when those same people say Revan was at his best shortly after coming out of a roughly three hundred year long coma.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I assume you mean SoR. And considering that literally everyone improved after SoR up until KotFE, I'm going to disagree with you. It's idiotic to think they stayed static in the time up until KotFE begins as well as during it. Because as I pointed out, a lot of time as gone by already.

Who is this "literally everyone"? Because there is no clear indication that anyone improved, beside that usual "time has passed" argument. Which isn't exactly infallible evidence.

Until you have something concrete it's far-fetched to assume someone improved while spending 5 years in imperfect carbonite...

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
]Who is this "literally everyone"? Because there is no clear indication that anyone improved, beside that usual "time has passed" argument. Which isn't exactly infallible evidence.

Quotes from NPCs and the player character about their own abilities. Again, their opinions of themselves are superior to any assumptions you or Neph can make. Even as soon as RoE, Lana herself was supposed to have begun shielding herself against Vitiate.

Until you have something concrete it's far-fetched to assume someone improved while spending 5 years in imperfect carbonite...

What concrete proof is their of improvement since the class story began besides opinions of those in game? What kind of retardation does it require to ignore statements in game as well as ignoring the obvious improvement shown in the feats performed. They don't need to improve in the 5 years of carbonite freezing when improvement is shown and stated everywhere else.

👆 Arcann takes this.