Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Right after the Outlander gets stabbed in the stomach they say Valkorion is healing them and kept them alive. Unfortunately, your opinion means absolutely nothing here compared to theirs.
You're forgetting that Valkorion can't use his power unless the Outlander allows him to. Notice how both times he heals you, the Outlander is unconscious and can't restrict his actions?
Originally posted by ares834
Gotta say its funny though seeing some say that Outlander isn't operating at peak efficiency (he likely isn't) after being out of the game a few years when those same people say Revan was at his best shortly after coming out of a roughly three hundred year long coma.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You're forgetting that Valkorion can't use his power unless the Outlander allows him to. Notice how both times he heals you, the Outlander is unconscious and can't restrict his actions?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Are you retarded? If that were true the Outlander would have died as soon as they were turned into a kebab. The entire point of giving you a choice is to get you around to his way of thinking. Also pretty sure the dream where he's actively heals you counts enough for consciousness. The grasping from you and zoltan is a sight to behold.
Says the guy with 0 evidence....
Valkorion in the "dream" says he did all he could to save the Outlander's life, but even after that Lana had to use a cure that "might" save you. But even after that you are still in a bad shape to the point that when you suggest to beat Vaylin with the help of Lana she says she is amazed you can even stand.
But all that aside improving while you are ******* unconscious would be a bigger feat than for Luke to go from 0 to Vader level in 4 years 🙄
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Says the guy with 0 evidence....Valkorion in the "dream" says he did all he could to save the Outlander's life, but even after that Lana had to use a cure that "might" save you. But even after that you are still in a bad shape to the point that when you suggest to beat Vaylin with the help of Lana she says she is amazed you can even stand.
But all that aside improving while you are ******* unconscious would be a bigger feat than for Luke to go from 0 to Vader level in 4 years 🙄
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Again, you're completely ignoring the improvement stated to happen between SoR and Chapter 1, and the improvement we see up until Chapter 9. It's not like the Outlander just woke up one day and fought Arcann minutes later.
Considering they haven't done shit between SoR and Chapter 1, as well as mostly fighting fodder before Arcann (except Heskal), yes I do.
Any improvement the Outlander might had is marginal at best.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Considering they haven't done shit between SoR and Chapter 1, as well as mostly fighting fodder before Arcann (except Heskal), yes I do.
Any improvement the Outlander might had is marginal at best.
Originally posted by NephthysFail to see how this puts the protag on Malgus' level though, considering it took four of then to defeat him. mmm
Vitiate tacitly agrees that he can't control the Hero of Tython's mind, admitting that s/he's stronger than they once were:"You won't control me again. I'm stronger than I was back then."
"Yes. I feel it."
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Are you retarded? If that were true the Outlander would have died as soon as they were turned into a kebab. The entire point of giving you a choice is to get you around to his way of thinking. Also pretty sure the dream where he's actively heals you counts enough for consciousness. The grasping from you and zoltan is a sight to behold.
I guess you're about to get schooled by a retard. What's lower than a retarded I wonder. Quan? Because you're wrong, Valkorion can't use his power without the Outlander's permission. He's not giving you the choice because he wants to, as seen by the fact that he will take control of you to blast Arcann if you've given into him enough. But if you haven't he's up shit-creek. And no, being frozen in carbonite doesn't count as being conscious. It's a ****ing dream, moron. The Outlander can't prevent his actions if they're not conscious or if they're will is sufficiently lowered.
The Outlander doesn't die when they get stabbed because they're the goddamn Outlander. Qui-Gon's a pussy.
We do know his true intentions in the case I'm mentioning. He wanted to whoop Arcann's whiny ass. If you tell him no he has to eat crow, unless you've given him enough control that he can ignore you. Which he does if he can.
When does he mentally enslave you? Are you just talking about the dream because lol if so.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Valkorion mentally enslaved the Outlander inside his own mind and let him be set free. 😬The reason why Vitiate hasn't taken control of the Outlander yet Voice style is unexplained, but it's certainly within his capabilities.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Or we don't know his true intentions. 😬Unless you legitimately believe Valkorion considers the Outlander any more than a chess piece in his master plan.
And if so, then kek
Originally posted by Nephthys
We do know his true intentions in the case I'm mentioning. He wanted to whoop Arcann's whiny ass. If you tell him no he has to eat crow, unless you've given him enough control that he can ignore you. Which he does if he can.When does he mentally enslave you? Are you just talking about the dream because lol if so.
Valkorion is acting like a nice guy in KoTFE. His motives are unclear but the Outlander's companions are worried and do not trust him.
Valkorion grants the Outlander a choice during difficult situations; to accept his assistance [or] not. Valkorion doesn't attempts to control the Outlander at any point.
Yes, if you [as a player] are depending upon Valkorion to get the job done then it is possible that such actions have consequences. We will find out in later chapters.