Mother Talzin/TCW Darth Maul vs. Exar Kun/Ulic-Qel Droma

Started by carthage2 pages

Mother Talzin/TCW Darth Maul vs. Exar Kun/Ulic-Qel Droma

*Fight takes place in the Forest of Dxun

Force, sabers, all out

Team 2

Lolno

Talzin>=Kun
Maul>Ulic

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lolno

Talzin>=Kun
Maul>Ulic

Really? I would think that Talzin being off Dathomir she wouldn't be powerful enough to take on Kun. I think Ulic has enough to hold off and maybe defeat Maul.

And you'd be wrong.

So you believe that Maul is just as good as a deulist as Kun? Just asking cause didn't Ulic stalemate Kun in saber combat?

I don't actually think Exar Kun is the most amazing duelist of all time, so yeah, I think Maul is a better duelist than him and Ulic.

Interesting. Well I agree Kun isn't the best deulist of all time I would say he is of great skill and technical mastery. With that Ulic being able to stalemate him, I would place Ulic above Maul, defintily, and I'm not seeing how Talzin is in anyway greater than Kun. I suppose I could see equal as a big stretch but defintlly not greater.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't actually think Exar Kun is the most amazing duelist of all time

That wouldn't happen to be because of Ancientmoron's recent wanking would it?

Not really. I was never a big fan of Kun's.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Interesting. Well I agree Kun isn't the best deulist of all time I would say he is of great skill and technical mastery. With that Ulic being able to stalemate him, I would place Ulic above Maul, defintily, and I'm not seeing how Talzin is in anyway greater than Kun. I suppose I could see equal as a big stretch but defintlly not greater.

Your entire argument is based on Kun's amazing skill, but you haven't shown why he's above Maul. Nor why Talzin, who can stand up to Sidious, and while yes Dathomir is her home it's also a Dark Side nexus Sidious can draw on, should be weaker than Kun who has been TK'd before by far inferior opponents.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not really. I was never a big fan of Kun's.

Your entire argument is based on Kun's amazing skill, but you haven't shown why he's above Maul. Nor why Talzin, who can stand up to Sidious, and while yes Dathomir is her home it's also a Dark Side nexus Sidious can draw on, should be weaker than Kun who has been TK'd before by far inferior opponents.

Well Kun did defeat his master who had trained hundreds upon hundreds of students and of those hundreds upon hundreds Kun was said to be the best. He also created his won variant of the double blade that made him more,versatile than maul ever could have been. He showed enough strength to break Vodo's force embued staff which was able to break bones IIRC, was made the dark lord of the Sith by Marka Ragnos DURING A LIGHTSABER DEUL with Ulic who, he stalemated. This is the same Ulic who defeated Warb Null while,weakened and considered a novice, same with he an his brother easing seven Jedi and beating a hundred dark side,imbued warriors while,weakened and considered a novice.

Talzin being on her home planet makes all the difference. Without being on the planet she wouldn't be that strong and couldn't accomplish those same feats. When you look at Kun's abilities with Sith sorcery and his blast. As for Kun's TK, he did kill Odan Urr with Force wound albeit he was older, casually force pushed Sylvar. Then he has his Sith sorcery and magic to,help aswell as blast.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well Kun did defeat his master who had trained hundreds upon hundreds of students and of those hundreds upon hundreds Kun was said to be the best.

That's great really. Talzin and Maul are also more powerful than all those other students.

He also created his won variant of the double blade that made him more,versatile than maul ever could have been.

Because? Kun uses Niman, a form that Maul not only knows, but knows well. He knows how to counter Kun, despite any variations Kun may have put on the style. It's not like Kun's unique spin is going to carry him.

He showed enough strength to break Vodo's force embued staff which was able to break bones IIRC, was made the dark lord of the Sith by Marka Ragnos DURING A LIGHTSABER DEUL with Ulic who, he stalemated. This is the same Ulic who defeated Warb Null while,weakened and considered a novice, same with he an his brother easing seven Jedi and beating a hundred dark side,imbued warriors while,weakened and considered a novice.

Yeah, I read ILS' respect thread too. As great as Warb Null is, he by no means compares to likes of Savage in strength or power, who Maul absolutely tools in speed, skill, and strength.

Talzin being on her home planet makes all the difference. Without being on the planet she wouldn't be that strong and couldn't accomplish those same feats.

Like I said, it's not like Sidious couldn't draw on Dathomir. It's also worth nothing that there is no reason that Talzin wouldn't be able to drawn Dxun.

When you look at Kun's abilities with Sith sorcery and his blast.

Which Talzin has superior showings in.

As for Kun's TK, he did kill Odan Urr with Force wound albeit he was older, casually force pushed Sylvar.

Definitely something well out of the capabilities of Maul or Talzin. Pushing Sylvar, who struggled with Force-deaf Ulic, and killing an old man. That same old man that seconds before casually tossed him. Next level shit right there. 👆

Then he has his Sith sorcery and magic to,help aswell as blast.

Talzin has Dathomiri magic, which Sidious obviously found intriguing as compared to Kun's great Sith sorcery. Maul also has this amazing thing called a lightsaber that he can use better than anyone here.

Kuns best TK showings is killing an old washed up Jedi Librarians, and pushing Sylvar?

KEK, what a loser. 😆

So many unbelievably moronic comments in one thread I don't where to start.

You can start by admitting Kun's inferiority.

Originally posted by carthage
That wouldn't happen to be because of Ancientmoron's recent wanking would it?

Wow, such an original insult. How long did it take your singular lobe to conjure such wit?

But hey, feel free to contribute absolutely anything of value to this forum rather than aimlessly troll. That is after all par for the course for everything you ever post.

That ain't my business though.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You can start by admitting Kun's inferiority.

Inferiority to someone who relies entirely on a specailised planet's worth of amp for high tier feats? You may certainly hold that opinion. I'll personally take the side of someone who actually is a Dark Side Nexus.

I'll get the popcorn.

If you get anything other than salted... u wanna fight?

ROFL, no actually I just wanna see how this develops. 👆