Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's great really. Talzin and Maul are also more powerful than all those other students.Because? Kun uses Niman, a form that Maul not only knows, but knows well. He knows how to counter Kun, despite any variations Kun may have put on the style. It's not like Kun's unique spin is going to carry him.
Yeah, I read ILS' respect thread too. As great as Warb Null is, he by no means compares to likes of Savage in strength or power, who Maul absolutely tools in speed, skill, and strength.
Like I said, it's not like Sidious couldn't draw on Dathomir. It's also worth nothing that there is no reason that Talzin wouldn't be able to drawn Dxun.
Which Talzin has superior showings in.
Definitely something well out of the capabilities of Maul or Talzin. Pushing Sylvar, who struggled with Force-deaf Ulic, and killing an old man. That same old man that seconds before casually tossed him. Next level shit right there. 👆
Talzin has Dathomiri magic, which Sidious obviously found intriguing as compared to Kun's great Sith sorcery. Maul also has this amazing thing called a lightsaber that he can use better than anyone here.
I'm not saying your wrong but what has Talzin done with Sith illusions that top Kun who pretty much put most of his energy into it. Gaining a wealth of knowledge from Naga Sadow and taking his gauntlets. If this is a nexus then his gauntlets would be more powerful than on a normal level which can be pretty powerful there. I'm still not convinced maul is better than Ulic or Kun in saber combat. He has amazing feast don't get me wrong, but I'm not sure what puts him on top here.
Can you also fill me in on some of Talzin's showings with TK? I've seen a few, none of which put her above Kun.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I'm not saying your wrong but what has Talzin done with Sith illusions that top Kun who pretty much put most of his energy into it. Gaining a wealth of knowledge from Naga Sadow and taking his gauntlets.
If this is a nexus then his gauntlets would be more powerful than on a normal level which can be pretty powerful there.
I'm still not convinced maul is better than Ulic or Kun in saber combat. He has amazing feast don't get me wrong, but I'm not sure what puts him on top here.
Can you also fill me in on some of Talzin's showings with TK? I've seen a few, none of which put her above Kun.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
How about creating whatever Savage is, restoring Maul, being able to move in between the corporeal and incorporeal, without being trapped mind you, and being able to possess Dooku? Just to name a few.Because Dooku and Sidious' lightning is weaker than either's amulets?
Are you going to actually establish what is so great about Kun and Ulic's saber prowess that puts them miles above Maul, or above Maul at all, or are you just going to keep saying, "I'm still not convinced?"
Can give some actual showings for Kun in TK? More importantly given how strong her shield is, I doubt Kun will be TKing her.
That was a ritual I suppose. I personally say it was a ritual, and it was on Dathomir where she wasn't in a battle situation. Kun has created illusions that can harm beings without either. Even if he did require a nexus, Dxun is an amp for dark sliders so he will be able to use this to his advantages. All of these I believe are rituals. Possession of Dooku, ritual that was done on Dathomir, restoring maul, ritual done on Dathomir, savage, ritual done in Dathomir. So I'm not seeing how these top Kun since they all were rituals and we're done where she is amped more than any other character ever.
Dooku maybe. I would say Kun is more powerful than Dooku(maybe) but weaker than Sidious.
Well it's not like I've seen anything that puts Maul over them. Kun beat Vodo who was a lightsaber enthusiast in one on one combat and stalemated Ulic a renowned and powerful Jedi, was the best deulist of all the hundreds of students Vodo had, and is one if not the most masterful Niman practioner ever with his own elaborate and technically sophisticated weapon.
Maul has defeated Qui Gon Jin who really has no feats to put him above or close to Ulic just that he was one of the greatest sword masters ever, but that term is used very loosely and this applies to a Kun and a Ulic as well(tbf) same with anun Bundara, who I beleive maul only beat by putting out the second blade at the right time, and was stalemated by an enraged Kenobi in TPM. He did pawn savage, and went up agaisnt Sidious who was toying around with them the whole time.
I do agree that Kun isn't going to TK her.
Originally posted by AncientPowerBased on ?
I know, not equating Talzin to Sidious is like blasphemy here. I do not actually think she is entirely reliant on Dathomir, however I do question her being all that much more powerful than Dooku without it tbh.Talzin vs Sidious on fair terms would be a pretty quick occasion in my opinion.