Richard Dragon Vs Shen Kuei · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Zack M Senior Member

Richard Dragon Vs Shen Kuei

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StiltmanFTW CBvF

Both are terribly underused.

cdtm Restricted

Agreed.

Not too knowledgeable about Dragon, but Shen's held his own with martial.artists who could beat down the likes of Bronze Tiger and Batman in straight h2h..

deathslash Pyromaniacal Humanitarian

Shen all day

Zack M Senior Member

Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed.
Not too knowledgeable about Dragon, but Shen's held his own with martial.artists who could beat down the likes of Bronze Tiger and Batman in straight h2h..

Like who? Scans?

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Like Iron Fist or Shang-Chi.

Zack M Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Like Iron Fist or Shang-Chi.

Batman has taken on the likes of Val Armorr. Both Bronze Tiger and Dragon have treated Batman like a child.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

When has Dragon fought Batman?

Only seen him sparring with noob Bruce who was on his journey to become Batman?

Zack M Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When has Dragon fought Batman?
Only seen him sparring with noob Bruce who was on his journey to become Batman?

Early days during RD mini series. He's definitely peers with Shiva and Bronze Tiger.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Meh, Bronze Tiger got the better of Batman in one encounter like 30 years ago and people still swear by it. These aren't the same way these characters are treated anymore.

In the next encounter, Bruce was poisoned and still nearly beat Bronze Tiger.

Primarily those two showings and the showing against a beat up Deathstroke who already pushed to the limit before encountering Bronze Tiger, Deadshot and a few other guys and still giving them hell before going down [and this was before several upgrades], are what people like to refer to when it comes to Bronze Tiger.

Shiva is better than Bronze Tiger.
Catman had a double KO with Bronze Tiger.
Bronze Tiger struggled with a small child Cassandra.

Batman beat Catman easily.

Cassandra beat Shiva, twice.
Jason Todd outfought Shiva twice.
Batman beat Shiva and stalemater another time.

Batman beat Cassandra, twice.
Tim Drake beat Cassandra.

Batman beat Jason Todd.

David Cain had to come in and save Tiger and a few others in one encounter from getting royally rekt by Shiva. None of them even landed a hit before Cain jumped in.

Batman has beat David Cain also.

Batman went toe to toe with Karate Kid twice. [getting the better once, and on there recieving end once, but did so tactically, giving up use of his belt to position KK in front of Black Lightning ftw.]

Zack M Senior Member

Last time catman encountered batman, he did pretty well.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Zack M
Last time catman encountered batman, he did pretty well.

Are you thinking of the time I am, where he got off a few hits consecutively before Batman started curbstomping him and Catman suddenly didn't want to fight anymore?
Or is another more recent than that?

Zack M Senior Member

Secret six.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517030
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517031

deathslash Pyromaniacal Humanitarian

Originally posted by Juntai
He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517030
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517031

that kind of contradicts your previous statement about batman curbstomping him. He landed two hits and Blake caught the third one.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Also, those "few decent strikes" were actually a very well performed combo:

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Remembered it different, and then went and got the scans.

However, he didn't land another blow after that combo, and all he did was recieve until he said he was done fighting.

Then admitted he lost at the end while trying to save face by saying "I let you win."

Once Batman stopped trying to just play spar and talk to him and went on the offensive, Catman wanted no part of it.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

but as for Dragon, that version of Dragon only lasted a handful of issues, then got retconned out, but he was considered above pretty much everybody at that particular moment in time.

And I don't know much about the other guy.

Zack M Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
but as for Dragon, that version of Dragon only lasted a handful of issues, then got retconned out, but he was considered above pretty much everybody at that particular moment in time.
And I don't know much about the other guy.

Above the likes of Batman, Bronze, or Shiva?

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517030
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517031

So it ended with Batman getting 2 strikes and Catman catching the 3rd.

Looks pretty evenly matched.