Originally posted by Bardock42
They are changeable because the people who wrote it made them in that way. But you're probably right, the founding fathers were just stupid liberals, why don't you go piss on a statue of Washington to make your point.
Are you that mad you needed to go off and say something as stupid as this?
Originally posted by Surtur
It's brought up because it doesn't get the attention the other stories do. Constantly. Black lives matter when killed by white cops. Not when anything else happens.It's out of control and we turn a blind eye in comparison to the cop things. Nobody says cops aren't a problem. But they are by far not the biggest.
Then if you talk about it you are a racist. I'll watch my city get torn apart while you worry about cops.
Corrupt cops and gang violence aren't completely separate issues. I've never heard of heavy gang presence in neighborhoods where the locals have a good, close relationship with their police and the police do their job well. Gangs thrive in areas where the locals don't speak with cops and don't trust the law, but they can't really function as well if the police are good at their jobs, have rapport with their community, and are receiving information on gang activities from the locals.
The gangs are much harder to change than the cops are, because unlike cops, gangs don't have any official oversight or responsibilities to the public. It's ludicrous to suggest we prioritize gang violence over straightening out the police when straightening out the police would likely diminish the effectiveness of gangs. We can't control the gangs directly, but we CAN control the police directly, so let's deal with that side of the problem first.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
The backlash with stringent gun control would be criminals would look for alternate ways to kill people, prob more gruesome ways. Like knives, Molotov cocktails, baseball bats, homemade flamethrowers . My point is killers will continue to kill. We can't control gun and ammo supply 'cause then we'd be messing with big-time syndicates. So the best solution really is to eliminate these mafia/syndicates.
Underrated post.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Here's the thing, areas with high levels of gang activity typically don't have the best police departments either. There are cases of neighborhoods where the locals trust the gangs more than they do the cops because the police there are corrupt and heavy-handed.Corrupt cops and gang violence aren't completely separate issues. I've never heard of heavy gang presence in neighborhoods where the locals have a good, close relationship with their police and the police do their job well. Gangs thrive in areas where the locals don't speak with cops and don't trust the law, but they can't really function as well if the police are good at their jobs, have rapport with their community, and are receiving information on gang activities from the locals.
The gangs are much harder to change than the cops are, because unlike cops, gangs don't have any official oversight or responsibilities to the public. It's ludicrous to suggest we prioritize gang violence over straightening out the police when straightening out the police would likely diminish the effectiveness of gangs. We can't control the gangs directly, but we CAN control the police directly, so let's deal with that side of the problem first.
I never said it would be easy, but it's MUCH bigger problem. Also if you are blaming the police departments then...well, they blamed the cops for Michael Brown, but they blamed the police departments for the police brutality. So there is a common factor that needs to be addressed.
We don't have the focus the other stuff does even though it is a big problem. You have people you know that you fear for their lives now because these gang bangers are too stupid to learn how to shoot properly.
The epic problem and difficulty fixing it is why we need more focus on it.
Originally posted by Omega Visiontbh i think you're overemphasizing the importance of police when it comes to the gang issue
Here's the thing, areas with high levels of gang activity typically don't have the best police departments either. There are cases of neighborhoods where the locals trust the gangs more than they do the cops because the police there are corrupt and heavy-handed.Corrupt cops and gang violence aren't completely separate issues. I've never heard of heavy gang presence in neighborhoods where the locals have a good, close relationship with their police and the police do their job well. Gangs thrive in areas where the locals don't speak with cops and don't trust the law, but they can't really function as well if the police are good at their jobs, have rapport with their community, and are receiving information on gang activities from the locals.
The gangs are much harder to change than the cops are, because unlike cops, gangs don't have any official oversight or responsibilities to the public. It's ludicrous to suggest we prioritize gang violence over straightening out the police when straightening out the police would likely diminish the effectiveness of gangs. We can't control the gangs directly, but we CAN control the police directly, so let's deal with that side of the problem first.
not that there isn't a relationship
but it's not just necessarily that bad cops breed gang ridden neighborhoods.... its also that gang ridden neighborhoods breed hostility to the police
gangs literally terrorize anyone who does cooperate with police... so you'd be smarter not to cooperate with the police in lets say baltimore...otherwise gangs will literally firebomb your house
how can different police tactics change that? that's the silly part of only focusing on the police.... most of the places that are ridden with gang violence are in that circumstance because it's become the most profitable industry for young kids growing up in the ghetto. once upon a time the crips were to protect black people from white racism/the LA police.... now it's just money and drugs for the most part. times have changed but people are still harping on the same tired tropes from decades ago... it's just a failure to get with the times.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
😂Just had to post this
So you think guns should be treated the same as cars? i.e. you need a driver's license and every car is registered and has to be insured?