Silver Surfer vs. General Zod

Well, I'm not saying that the pulse is the only way to remove him, my point was just that using physical attacks against someone who can phase doesn't sound like a winning tactic.

I see your point, it prolly isn't but I just think it's only fair.

Imp said that based on the rules, even if the green lantern who can make almost anything could only represent what he has been shown to create on screen.

I really don't care either way, my mos crush has faded. But I still think Zod is more powerful then people give him credit for.

But Surfer was shown to phase in order to avoid impacts, it being a fist rather than a building or bus shouldn't matter. the concept is the same. it's not like I'm arguing that Surfer would use his phasing ability to remove Zod's brain or other internal organs.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, Surfer travels around in the vacuum of space without falling off his board. Can survive leaving and entering earth's atmosphere without falling off his board.

That's true. And a good argument against physical attacks working.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, I'm not saying that the pulse is the only way to remove him, my point was just that using physical attacks against someone who can phase doesn't sound like a winning tactic.

Also true.

Physical attacks do seem like a very unlikely way of defeating him.

The flying at super speed and punching him thing only really works if Surfer stands there and lets it happen, as opposed to using his own immense flight speed and agility to avoid it, or going intangible, or using his mountain shattering energy blasts to defend himself etc. And that is after not only making the assumption that pure physical force can separate him from his board, but that Zod can deliver the required amount of force. What proof do we even have that Zod can resist getting sucked into Surfer's board, like some of the missiles the army shot at him?

Zod is very powerful, but SS has versatility on his side.

Zod has heat vision in addition to his super strength and supes did fly through a mountain with little trouble, SS mountaon shattering may not be an endgame hrre.

Surfer wins.

Yep. We saw how well heat worked against Surfer when the Human Torch gave it a shot.

I'm pretty sure throwing any form of energy at him save that specifically generated tachyon pulse would just end up with it absorbed or turned back on Zod. Or simply phased through. Remember he wasn't even slowed down by Sue's forcefield. A forcefield powerful enough to contain Johnny's nova flame.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Zod has heat vision in addition to his super strength and supes did fly through a mountain with little trouble, SS mountaon shattering may not be an endgame hrre.

Well, as KingD19 pointed out, even the Torch's heat couldn't hurt SS, and neither did it do any visible damage to Doom while wielding the Surfer's powers (all it did was damage his wrist controller thing). So I doubt heat vision will help him much here.

I don't think his energy blasts will be a game ender here either (well, unless he tries a Galactus buster, which is unlikely). The point I was making is that the whole flying at Surfer and punching him is a lot easier said than done, considering Zod would have to deal with those blasts while trying to get close enough. Even if they don't seriously harm him, they will most likely still knock him on his ass. And again, that is making the assumption that he can be punched off his board, and that Zod is actually strong enough to do it.

Thinking about it though... how on Earth did Johnny actually manage to damage that wrist machine when the board power seemingly prevented him from even making Doom's cape singe?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh god, so if your a galactis fanboy, that makes you a silver surfer fan boy.

😂

I actually had a thought. Even if Zod could knock the Surfer off his board, which is still a giant IF, it shouldn't make a difference. The tachyon pulse didn't simply blast Surfer off his board. It briefly disrupted his connection to it, so he actually dropped right through the thing. Also, after he kills Galactus and is floating in space, he is separated from his board, which then starts to fly back to him. So unless Zod can actually sever Surfer's connection to the board, hitting him really hard likely won't help that much.

Thinking about it though... how on Earth did Johnny actually manage to damage that wrist machine when the board power seemingly prevented him from even making Doom's cape singe?

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Is it possible to kill SS while he's still connected?

I would assume so, seeing as there was nothing in the film to suggest he was totally immortal. But what it would require is anyone's guess, considering he somehow managed to survive killing the being who actually gave him his powers. To me it was a bit dumb, but that's how the movie went.

As I stated before, I just don't think Zod has what it takes to beat Surfer. As Vault points out, even if he separates him from the board... that isn't a end game for Surfer. He'll just recall it.

Couldn't surfer just absorb Zod into his board like he did the missile?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
As I stated before, I just don't think Zod has what it takes to beat Surfer. As Vault points out, even if he separates him from the board... that isn't a end game for Surfer. He'll just recall it.

And he can call it back fast enough while being speed blitzed? If he did get knocked off it was prolly a hard hit, he's just going to what. Recover and Zods going to lay off while he gets back on?

No, he'll probably just go intangible till the board returns. He's not helpless without the board you know. Only when he's completely disconnected to it.