Even in Disney Canon Yoda is still of the opinion that Dooku was the Jedi's strongest student. Not Mace.
Confirmed in "Star Wars Everything you Need to Know"-
Spoiler:
part of the Journey to the Force Awakens series, so nothing Quan would be interested in purchasing, given he's Faking being TFA's no.1 fan 😂.
Not saying Dooku > Mace, but just saying that part of Dooku's history with the Jedi is still Canon.
Anyway Vader's clearly stomped in the poll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not have the scans or the comic on my iPad. Basically they are both shooting force lightning against her magical power and Grievous walked up and killed her. Maul had to leave and with the three on one advantage she died.
So you finally admit you don't have any scans.
You finally admit there is no proof that Talzin was weakend.
With that you finally admit there is no definitive way to prove Talzin is more powerful than Darth Sidious.
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Originally posted by Darth ThorOpinion based isn't factual information. Yoda also thought he could beat Palpatine and he was dead wrong. Opinions aren't facts. Yoda's brilliance saw the entire Jedi order crushed and burned to the ground. Facts matter.
Even in Disney Canon Yoda is still of the opinion that Dooku was the Jedi's strongest student. Not Mace.Confirmed in "Star Wars Everything you Need to Know"-
Spoiler:
part of the Journey to the Force Awakens series, so nothing Quan would be interested in purchasing, given he's Faking being TFA's no.1 fan 😂.Not saying Dooku > Mace, but just saying that part of Dooku's history with the Jedi is still Canon.
Anyway Vader's clearly stomped in the poll.
I have my two Ren shirts, tickets, and Kylo Ren action figure. You're not on my level.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Scans exist I just don't have them on me.
So you finally admit you don't have any scans.You finally admit there is no proof that Talzin was weakend.
With that you finally admit there is no definitive way to prove Talzin is more powerful than Darth Sidious.
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The comic exists and I've seen it. Talzin is greater than Sidious much to the shame of his fanatical fans.
I'll attempt to find the scans. I just need to know the context of the scene. Galen was able to contend with Sidious for a time before the build up of energy killed him while Sidious came out relatively unscathed. A similar situation could be going on regarding Talzin vs Sidious and Dooku meaning her being more powerful then Sidious would be questionable.
Aside from that I find it strange that Talzin didn't really employ her powers against Mace in their fight. I'm going to go back and rewatch that episode to get some context for that fight. Perhaps Talzin was hampered in some way.
Found it.
So Talzin and Sidious stalemated.
Talzin and Maul vs Sidious and Dooku made Talzin believe they could not win the battle ( which makes sense given Dooku is more powerful then Maul ) and caused her to send Maul away.
Talzin then briefly held her own against the combined attack of Dooku and Sidious before being cut down by Grievous.
So she's a Sidious level force/magic user.
She was disarmed by Sidious rather easily it seems. Granted this isn't necessarily a bad showing as sword masters have fallen to Sidious in seconds. It just doesn't give us a tangible scope of her abilities in force augmentation and her overall skill.
This actually further supports the idea that Mace is not on par with Sidious without an amp as he only managed to stalemate Talzin while Sidious was able to disarm her. Granted their were circumstantial factors in her fight against Sidious.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Scans exist I just don't have them on me.The comic exists and I've seen it. Talzin is greater than Sidious much to the shame of his fanatical fans.
Well you've never proved how. She was capable of stalemtaing on that planet which amps her more than any other character she couldn't beat Sidious.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Found it.So Talzin and Sidious stalemated.
Talzin and Maul vs Sidious and Dooku made Talzin believe they could not win the battle ( which makes sense given Dooku is more powerful then Maul ) and caused her to send Maul away.
Talzin then briefly held her own against the combined attack of Dooku and Sidious before being cut down by Grievous.
So she's a Sidious level force/magic user.
She was disarmed by Sidious rather easily it seems. Granted this isn't necessarily a bad showing as sword masters have fallen to Sidious in seconds. It just doesn't give us a tangible scope of her abilities in force augmentation and her overall skill.
This actually further supports the idea that Mace is not on par with Sidious without an amp as he only managed to stalemate Talzin while Sidious was able to disarm her. Granted their were circumstantial factors in her fight against Sidious.
Yea. Only objection is that Talzin is equal to Sidious. They were on Dathomir which amps her more than any other character. The area she was in was said to be the Heart of Her Power so yea. My only problem.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yea. Only objection is that Talzin is equal to Sidious. They were on Dathomir which amps her more than any other character. The area she was in was said to be the Heart of Her Power so yea. My only problem.
Skipped to the fight so I didn't know the context. Thanks for that tidbit. Do you have a quote saying that Dathomir amped her powers though?
Originally posted by Syndicate
Skipped to the fight so I didn't know the context. Thanks for that tidbit. Do you have a quote saying that Dathomir amped her powers though?
It was said it was the heart of her power so at her most powerful and in the EU she and the other nightsisters are stronger on Dathomir. Also quotes from Ventress in Dark Disciple also back this up. You'll also find here that we will say Talzin has her Dathomir feats because she performs more powerful feats on Dathomir.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It was said it was the heart of her power so at her most powerful and in the EU she and the other nightsisters are stronger on Dathomir. Also quotes from Ventress in Dark Disciple also back this up. You'll also find here that we will say Talzin has her Dathomir feats because she performs more powerful feats on Dathomir.
So basically feat comparisons, character comments and sound reasoning. I can support that.