Originally posted by Surtur
Okay but what about kids? Some social media sites have age restrictions, but they aren't hard to get around. I have seen kids from the ages of 7-12 with their own social media pages. Is this something that should be allowed?
Well I can only assume they're set up & approved & moderated by the parents.
Your average kid isn't savy enough to firstly set up an email address & faking their age on it before opening their own social media page.
Furthermore children are losing the ability to write by hand. Hand writing is becoming an obsolete skill when everything in class is done by keyboard.
Next year my 10 year old son has 3 options to submit his homework & assignments.
1) To type it on a keyboard & print it.
2) As a PowerPoint display
3) Handwritten on paper.
Suffice to say, you can imagine which format will be the least chosen.
Even teachers are encouraging the printed version as it's easier to read than decipher a kid's hand writing.
I'm honestly shocked when other parents see no harm in handwriting becoming an obsolete skill. While at the same time, potential employers are even saying this generation is adequate on their social skills when it comes to being interviewed. They lack the means to present themselves & show confidence simply because they're so used to interacting with a screen & minimising their thoughts & opinions into short phrases or emoticons.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Well I can only assume they're set up & approved & moderated by the parents.
Your average kid isn't savy enough to firstly set up an email address & faking their age on it before opening their own social media page.Furthermore children are losing the ability to write by hand. Hand writing is becoming an obsolete skill when everything in class is done by keyboard.
Next year my 10 year old son has 3 options to submit his homework & assignments.
1) To type it on a keyboard & print it.
2) As a PowerPoint display
3) Handwritten on paper.Suffice to say, you can imagine which format will be the least chosen.
Even teachers are encouraging the printed version as it's easier to read than decipher a kid's hand writing.I'm honestly shocked when other parents see no harm in handwriting becoming an obsolete skill. While at the same time, potential employers are even saying this generation is adequate on their social skills when it comes to being interviewed. They lack the means to present themselves & show confidence simply because they're so used to interacting with a screen & minimising their thoughts & opinions into short phrases or emoticons.
I'm sure some people also felt what you're feeling when cursive writing was no longer popular, but did it change much? No.
I do however think handwriting is an important skill that should be practiced, but only by those that want to be more well rounded.
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay but what about kids? Some social media sites have age restrictions, but they aren't hard to get around. I have seen kids from the ages of 7-12 with their own social media pages. Is this something that should be allowed?
Should it be allowed? I don't see why not, or why anyone should care if the parent's don't.
Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
If typing is superior than handwriting a paper, don't you think typing should replace handwriting?I'm sure some people also felt what you're feeling when cursive writing was no longer popular, but did it change much? No.
I do however think handwriting is an important skill that should be practiced, but only by those that want to be more well rounded.
It's not just losing the skill to hand write. It's losing the hand-eye coordination to do anything apart from using your thumbs to press buttons. You're losing the skill & dexterity to hold & operate a tool. People are relying more on tradesmen to do simple household repairs because their hands lack the strength & flexibility to use a hand tool.
And even in this day & age you're still required to fill out forms by hand.
And cursive writing is still popular. There was never any world wide movement to ban it or vote against it. It may be a skill no longer taught in school, like Latin but the simple art of handwriting shouldn't be taken for granted because of technology.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Well I can only assume they're set up & approved & moderated by the parents.
Your average kid isn't savy enough to firstly set up an email address & faking their age on it before opening their own social media page.Furthermore children are losing the ability to write by hand. Hand writing is becoming an obsolete skill when everything in class is done by keyboard.
Next year my 10 year old son has 3 options to submit his homework & assignments.
1) To type it on a keyboard & print it.
2) As a PowerPoint display
3) Handwritten on paper.Suffice to say, you can imagine which format will be the least chosen.
Even teachers are encouraging the printed version as it's easier to read than decipher a kid's hand writing.I'm honestly shocked when other parents see no harm in handwriting becoming an obsolete skill. While at the same time, potential employers are even saying this generation is adequate on their social skills when it comes to being interviewed. They lack the means to present themselves & show confidence simply because they're so used to interacting with a screen & minimising their thoughts & opinions into short phrases or emoticons.
But they aren't moderated, at least not always. I saw one page where the kid was posting pictures of himself holding guns and talking about smoking weed..he was like 14 yrs. old. He had over 7500 friends. Nobody said a damn thing until some stranger who didn't know him came across the page.
Or another page with this 13 yr. old girl having sexually explicit chats with people on Facebook and the real kicker: said 13 yr. old had one child already. So you'd of figured Facebook would be something someone like that wouldn't even be allowed on.
It also doesn't take much skill to register to these sites, with some they just ask you what your birthday is. Now the younger kids won't know how to set up new emails, but kids around the ages of 12-16 will surely know how, and I think these kids are at the age where they can do the most damage and have the most damage done to them in regards to social media.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
It's not just losing the skill to hand write. It's losing the hand-eye coordination to do anything apart from using your thumbs to press buttons. You're losing the skill & dexterity to hold & operate a tool. People are relying more on tradesmen to do simple household repairs because their hands lack the strength & flexibility to use a hand tool.And even in this day & age you're still required to fill out forms by hand.
And cursive writing is still popular. There was never any world wide movement to ban it or vote against it. It may be a skill no longer taught in school, like Latin but the simple art of handwriting shouldn't be taken for granted because of technology.
Anyway, we can incorporate technology with writing, then. So for example: I have a a tablet that lets me write on the screen, as if it was paper. But I don't have to use paper nor do I run out of pencil and I can erase entire sections by drawing a circle around them and using the delete tool. So I won't spend a minute erasing carbon from my paper. Plus I can choose different kinds of pens and pencils, I can minimise and maximise the entire sections of writing.
And I can paste my notes into other people's computer or table.
Technology shouldn't be feared, you should use it to your advantage.
Originally posted by Surtur
But they aren't moderated, at least not always. I saw one page where the kid was posting pictures of himself holding guns and talking about smoking weed..he was like 14 yrs. old. He had over 7500 friends. Nobody said a damn thing until some stranger who didn't know him came across the page.Or another page with this 13 yr. old girl having sexually explicit chats with people on Facebook and the real kicker: said 13 yr. old had one child already. So you'd of figured Facebook would be something someone like that wouldn't even be allowed on.
It also doesn't take much skill to register to these sites, with some they just ask you what your birthday is. Now the younger kids won't know how to set up new emails, but kids around the ages of 12-16 will surely know how, and I think these kids are at the age where they can do the most damage and have the most damage done to them in regards to social media.
The girl will still go to school, she'll find a way to have sex with or without social media.
And the kid will find a way to get a gun and weed and share it somewhere. Better at his home than at someone else's or worse at a public space.
Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
You're exaggerating. People won't lose the ability to use their hands if we stop writing.Anyway, we can incorporate technology with writing, then. So for example: I have a a tablet that lets me write on the screen, as if it was paper. But I don't have to use paper nor do I run out of pencil and I can erase entire sections by drawing a circle around them and using the delete tool. So I won't spend a minute erasing carbon from my paper. Plus I can choose different kinds of pens and pencils, I can minimise and maximise the entire sections of writing.
And I can paste my notes into other people's computer or table.Technology shouldn't be feared, you should use it to your advantage.
I didn't say we'll lose the ability of our hands because of technology, I'm saying it's giving us the easy option to be lazy & people are choosing it.
As for your tablet & its handwriting option, well its still not being utilised in schools. At least not the school my son goes to.
And the simple fact is, how often do you use it?
Do you hand write letters?
Or even your emails for that matter?
You pretty much implied it. Anyway, that's up to them, you can't force them to do what you want. How about you teach your kid how to hand write and give him an advantage over the lazy people.
Well if you keep resisting progress then there won't be any in classes for a long time.
Quite a few times.
No.
No.
Why would I need to know how to write a letter or an email? As long as I can get information across is what matters.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
It's not just losing the skill to hand write. It's losing the hand-eye coordination to do anything apart from using your thumbs to press buttons. You're losing the skill & dexterity to hold & operate a tool. People are relying more on tradesmen to do simple household repairs because their hands lack the strength & flexibility to use a hand tool.And even in this day & age you're still required to fill out forms by hand.
And cursive writing is still popular. There was never any world wide movement to ban it or vote against it. It may be a skill no longer taught in school, like Latin but the simple art of handwriting shouldn't be taken for granted because of technology.
We're not really typing with our thumbs you know. We use all 10 fingers (well 9 mostly, but some of us switch between left and right thumb when pressing the spacebar). Both hands too.
And if ppl want to develop their manual dexterity (to be an artist, surgeon, craftsman, etc.) it is actually something you can develop yourself given time (not something needed at childhood TBH) if such a need arises. Not unless you believe adults need to have learned how to write from childhood otherwise they'd never be able to write. One thing, tho, that in the future, a LOT of the above professions may very well be using the keyboard/mouse interface anyway.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Hell I've got a dumb friend who bragged on FB about the chick he picked up overseas to impress his friends....forgetting his girlfriend & her family was part of his FB friends.
Yeah but that is quite different then being banned from a college for nearly 2 years over a joke post.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
We're not really typing with our thumbs you know. We use all 10 fingers (well 9 mostly, but some of us switch between left and right thumb when pressing the spacebar). Both hands too.And if ppl want to develop their manual dexterity (to be an artist, surgeon, craftsman, etc.) it is actually something you can develop yourself given time (not something needed at childhood TBH) if such a need arises. Not unless you believe adults need to have learned how to write from childhood otherwise they'd never be able to write. One thing, tho, that in the future, a LOT of the above professions may very well be using the keyboard/mouse interface anyway.
Majority of people these days are using their smartphones for social media.
Personally I'm resting my IPhone in both hands whilst using both my thumbs to type is: the keyboard's too small to use all 10 fingers.
And most kids prefer to play their XBox & PS4 then play in the park these days.
There's little dexterity needed to push a joystick or press some buttons.
Some of the best artists & craftsmen were "born" talented. I've personally made a living for the past 20 years being a self taught artist. A passion from childhood, not something I learned in a class or studied.