Originally posted by Beniboybling
Most people on here like to pretend his feats never happened. 👆
That's "because they're over the top, hurr durr".
Anyway, these are the quotes from Haden Blackman:
As the presentation continued, the LucasArts folks answered questions about the Force Unleashed team (there's about 20 of them) and what the Force is going to be (Blackman described it as "amped up, out of control, over the top" but said the extreme instances of its use will be explained in the story). While the audience asked questions, character art, action depictions and environments were displayed on a big screen, and Blackman even let on that the game was almost a Wookie superhero title.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2007/07/28/sdcc-07-star-wars-the-force-unleashed-panelReexamination of what we know and love also applies to the Force powers Galen, Vader, and other characters possess. In keeping with the title, Blackman recalls, “we wanted to focus on blowing out the Force powers, making them really over the top. All of the powers are designed to be visceral and combat-ready. We also added the concept of combining Force powers with lightsaber attacks — you can charge up your lightsaber with lightning, for example.”
http://www.bradcook.net/games/articles/2009/12/starwarstheforceunleashed/The consumer feedback we’ve received has been overwhelmingly positive, and the story is a big part of that, but so are the over-the-top Force powers, the art direction, the audio, and many other pieces of the whole.
http://www.xb1.co.uk/xbox-one-news/the-force-unleashed-revisited-haden-blackman-interview-part-2/To that end, he and his team set out to, as the title of the game implies, give players Force abilities more powerful than they had previously seen. While the Jedi Knight games, for example, let you use Force grip to throttle enemies and throw our lightsabers to eviscerate foes from afar, you never had the opportunity to pull a spaceship out of the sky or charge a lightsaber with Force lightning. That’s the territory where Mr. Blackman headed.
“In general,” he said, “we were really trying to re-imagine Star Wars in a very dramatic way and show gamers something they’d never seen before. We looked back at other games and asked: ‘What’s the biggest, most over-the-top moment or power in this game? Okay, now how do we push that even further?’”
He added: “In the films and previous games, a Force push might knock an enemy down, but in The Force Unleashed, you hit that enemy with an invisible cannonball that sends them flying backwards and smashes into anything behind them. And we allow you to combine different Force powers in new and innovative ways. For example, you can super-charge a gripped enemy with lightning.”
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/the_force_unleashed_pushing_star_wars_over_the_top--Haden Blackman, Project Leader of The Force Unleashed
Originally posted by Nargaroth
That's "because they're over the top, hurr durr".
Well it is over the top, but that's because Starkiller is an over the top force user. Just like DE and KotfE is over the top. And all of them is legit. Sidious can do those feats, Vaylin can do those feats, and Starkiller can do those feats.
Their arbitrary dismissal of TFU is laughable at best, pathetic at worst.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan👆
Well it is over the top, but that's because Starkiller is an over the top force user. Just like DE and KotfE is over the top. And all of them is legit. Sidious can do those feats, Vaylin can do those feats, and Starkiller can do those feats.Their arbitrary dismissal of TFU is laughable at best, pathetic at worst.
This is the other quote from Haden Blackman:
"The Apprentice is the photo negative of Luke Skywalker. He's been raised by Darth Vader, and is what Luke would have become if he had joined his father. Vader's not a very nice daddy. This guy has been raised to be a Jedi. When the Jedi use the Force, they respect it and don't overuse it. The bad guys - the Sith - keep testing their limits. Vader discovered this person who had the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever. He's up there with the top tier. He's extremely powerful. Vader has trained him in such a way that he just kept pushing his limitations, seeing how far he could use the Force. So, where a normal Jedi might use the Force to trick his way past a few stormtroopers, the apprentice might use the Force to bring down an adjacent building on top of those stormtroopers. He's extremely confident in everything he does. He's been trained by Vader to be an assassin, an unstoppable force."
--Hayden Blackman, Star Wars Insider 100
It's obvious Marek was intended to be legitimately powerful in an extreme way.
Regardless, those quotes are only applicable to the game, which yes exaggerated his powers. And considering Leland Chee has branded such material dismissable if it only exists for the game's purposes we can do so. However no such rule exists for a licensed novelisation, which obviously can't give the "player" anything.
It's completely subjective therefore to assume his powers are exaggerated in the novel as well "because they're over the top, hurr durr".
That's all fine, but he wasn't more powerful than Vader. In fact going by Sam Witwer's comments, he was considerably less powerful than Vader.
Hence the need for Power Scaling. And not just looking at feats on their own. Especially in Legends where every medium portrayed force powers very differently.