Gorgon vs. Lady Shiva, Black Canary & Cassandra Cain

Originally posted by cdtm
Fist would beat Bats rather easily.

"No fanboy", his speed and striking feats put him closer to Spidey level then Batman's. And you don't think Batman could hold his own with Parker...

....do you?

in straight h2h not sure how anyone could say fist beats bats handily. as far as spidey--spidey's record against MA guys is...less than stellar. but yeah, spidey would beat bats for sure in a standard meeting. add gear and things get a bit cloudier imo. but that is certainly off-topic.

not calling anyone a fanboy. like i said, he'd beat them without the cry, but it's pretty clear that there is a difference between completely pwning logan/eleltra and his later showings against shang and fist, neither of whom would come close to beating that duo anywhere close to easily imo. in fact, i'd take logan/elektra for a majority over shang or fist--def shang, likely for a sweep....

Yeah, Canary solos. And Batman is at least as skilled as Danny in h2h without chi amping.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Canary solos. And Batman is at least as skilled as Danny in h2h without chi amping.

Danny DOES have chi amping, though. He always has chi amping.

Even without the Iron Fist and dragon chi, he can chi amp.

Give Batman the same skill, or make a "no chi amping" stipulation, and that's a different story, but it's also like asking Superman to fight in a vaccume without a star in space. Kind of arbitrary and something that almost never, ever happens in comics.

Originally posted by cdtm
Danny DOES have chi amping, though. He always has chi amping.

Even without the Iron Fist and dragon chi, he can chi amp.

Give Batman the same skill, or make a "no chi amping" stipulation, and that's a different story, but it's also like asking Superman to fight in a vaccume without a star in space. Kind of arbitrary and something that almost never, ever happens in comics.

In hth skills, they're about even.

Originally posted by cdtm
Even without the Iron Fist and dragon chi, he can chi amp.

Scans of him chi-amping pre-robbing the dragon out of its chi?

It's only logical to assume he can, but do you have any on-panel showings?

Didn't he use chi while training to take on the dragon?

Pretty sure he beat the dragon using chi.

Did he amp his stats with it, though?

If he didn't, then he's strong enough to kick a dragon's ass without chi, so it really doesn't matter.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Scans of him chi-amping pre-robbing the dragon out of its chi?

It's only logical to assume he can, but do you have any on-panel showings?

Colleen Wing amped her strength with chi. With skills she learned after Danny "violated her" (her words) with a mind meld to undo some mystical brain washing.

There's also the time he took on 90's era Creed when his IF wasn't working, and still managed to use "welled up ki", as the story put it, into a super punch.

It was NOT an Iron Fist amp, according to the story, but worked much the same.

Aoollo Creed?

Team takes this

Originally posted by cdtm
There's also the time he took on 90's era Creed when his IF wasn't working, and still managed to use "welled up ki", as the story put it, into a super punch.

Ah, I think I remember that.

Gorgon was keeping up with Spidey, he should cleave Canary in half at the bell.

Originally posted by cdtm
Danny DOES have chi amping, though. He always has chi amping.

Even without the Iron Fist and dragon chi, he can chi amp.

Give Batman the same skill, or make a "no chi amping" stipulation, and that's a different story, but it's also like asking Superman to fight in a vaccume without a star in space. Kind of arbitrary and something that almost never, ever happens in comics.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Gorgon was keeping up with Spidey, he should cleave Canary in half at the bell.

Why wouldn't the stone stare work?

If these three are as powerful as people are saying, and her canary cry is pretty well known....

Why would he wait till they came over the 0.5km to beat his ass?

Canary knows about the stone stare too then. She closes her eyes and knocks him out.

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Over 500m?

for my part i figure it's a lot easier for them to get into range for the cry than it is for him to get into range for the stare. imo the starting distance works in the favor of the girls. were this cqc he'd kill all of them before she could even scream...

Is there a range for the stare? Prob should've asked that first lol.

Gorgon was at least a block away in a tree when he blitzed Wolverine here. Don't think the distance is a concern for him.